Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 dear friends. "the one compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate", states an old hebrew dictum. after trying to reason with 'tony' about his ridiculously shallow and ignorant "purpots", given his venomous self-justifying and abusive replies, i concluded (like i believe most of the members did) that this nonentity, so called "troll" is nor worth my attention at all and simply delete all his email diarrhea without reading. i do get samples occasionally when reading other people's posts; and still find there almost nothing of substance worth relating too. though, as the saying goes, "even a blind chicken pecking in the dark occasionally hits upon a grain". the apparent personality named 'tony' is obviously a well-read ignoramus, one presenting other people's ideas which confirm and fit his preconceptions without contibuting anything original. he is a kind of troll whose 'personality' illlustrates what to avoid - circular thinking patterns, lack of compassion and understanding, futile attempts to justify one's behaviour etc. and of course taking himself seriously lol... lack of sense of humor and devotion to what he imagines as "god" or "god's love" are another characteristics of his kind. all those things are easily discernable to anyone observing it without prejudice. it is obvious that he neverg engaged seriously in self-enquiry or honest introspection; nor is he inclined to do so. the best way to drive trolls away is by ignoring them. those individuals thrive on attention; when deprived of it they soon loose interest and leave. so, do not feed the troll, friends! and in the meantime, if at all, keep observing this nice example of how not to be... respectfully, yosy ps. and remember: 'polite' behavour and intricate language are not indication of inner worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Hello Yosy, and all, When you say dear friends it includes me in your post. Yet I do not approve on the way some gang up against one individual and I do not want to be included in this. I do not read most of Tony posts but it does not make of him a troll in my eyes. Jesus once said this something like this: may the one who never sinned throw the first stone. Each one is precious. Its a hard lesson in life to actually live those last few words in every situation. Antoine - yosyx Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:52 PM a troll named 'tony' dear friends. "the one compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate", states an old hebrew dictum. after trying to reason with 'tony' about his ridiculously shallow and ignorant "purpots", given his venomous self-justifying and abusive replies, i concluded (like i believe most of the members did) that this nonentity, so called "troll" is nor worth my attention at all and simply delete all his email diarrhea without reading. i do get samples occasionally when reading other people's posts; and still find there almost nothing of substance worth relating too. though, as the saying goes, "even a blind chicken pecking in the dark occasionally hits upon a grain". the apparent personality named 'tony' is obviously a well-read ignoramus, one presenting other people's ideas which confirm and fit his preconceptions without contibuting anything original. he is a kind of troll whose 'personality' illlustrates what to avoid - circular thinking patterns, lack of compassion and understanding, futile attempts to justify one's behaviour etc. and of course taking himself seriously lol... lack of sense of humor and devotion to what he imagines as "god" or "god's love" are another characteristics of his kind. all those things are easily discernable to anyone observing it without prejudice. it is obvious that he neverg engaged seriously in self-enquiry or honest introspection; nor is he inclined to do so. the best way to drive trolls away is by ignoring them. those individuals thrive on attention; when deprived of it they soon loose interest and leave. so, do not feed the troll, friends! and in the meantime, if at all, keep observing this nice example of how not to be... respectfully, yosy ps. and remember: 'polite' behavour and intricate language are not indication of inner worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote: > dear friends. > "the one compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the > compassionate", states an old hebrew dictum. > after trying to reason with 'tony' about his ridiculously shallow Namaste, You excell yourself, as I have said some people on here have an agenda and I'm not paranoid. Before Harsha left most of what I was doing was just posting Thomas IMO, and an occasional post. However since Harsha is away Wim, You and some others have plucked up the courage to dump on me and try and stir me up. Perhaps to get me banned again or moderated. I am not concerned about my courage and I wouldn't wait until Harsha was out of the way to say what I think, if I thought it was valid and true. I don't go around getting off on stirring things ups that's for sure....If you don't like my posts then just delete them..If I end up posting to myself fine it will be in the archives and akashic records anyway.......ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Actually Antoine, it may just appear so, the ganging up, but the ganging up came from Tony himself over an extended period of time (a one gang show? with multiple disdainful interpretations and sarcastic remarks on various kinds of post... The people who speak up here can be seen as those that now finally stand up for themselves. Tony behaves like a very cleverly disguised bully on a playground, one that could even make a mother believe that "they" are ganging up on him... Tony can be here, but he has to let go of disdain, ridicule, wry and sly humor... The way he behaves is not the way he is, it is time that the real Tony comes forward and not a perciflage protecting an version of himself not true to him... Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Hello Wim, Been four years I wrote directly to you, I think... It's nice, how we change. It's nice to see you change and 'grow'. On this matter the inclusion 'We', dear friends, etc., when talking for others, is the thing that bugs me here. We are 657 people on this list. How one or a few can say what 'We' think? I see Tony for what he is, if he does not want to see it, it is problem. Who would I be to force him to see? The worse curse said the Angelique Serpent, to quote someone, would be to force enlightenment one person in one day. It would kill him or her. Why would I force someone to become 'enlighten? 'We', the ones posting, cannot project on what the other 600 or so not posting are seeing. Its a neurotic trap. Yet it is true that we often post what the silent ones are thinking without knowing. And that the post of each as an influence on all. That we read or not that post. Antoine - Wim Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:51 PM Re: a troll named 'tony' Actually Antoine, it may just appear so, the ganging up, but the ganging up came from Tony himself over an extended period of time (a one gang show? with multiple disdainful interpretations and sarcastic remarks on various kinds of post... The people who speak up here can be seen as those that now finally stand up for themselves. Tony behaves like a very cleverly disguised bully on a playground, one that could even make a mother believe that "they" are ganging up on him... Tony can be here, but he has to let go of disdain, ridicule, wry and sly humor... The way he behaves is not the way he is, it is time that the real Tony comes forward and not a perciflage protecting an version of himself not true to him... Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 What is the place of a troll in the Absolute Brahman? , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote: > dear friends. > "the one compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the > compassionate", states an old hebrew dictum. > after trying to reason with 'tony' about his ridiculously shallow and > ignorant "purpots", given his venomous self-justifying and abusive > replies, i concluded (like i believe most of the members did) that > this nonentity, so called "troll" is nor worth my attention at all > and simply delete all his email diarrhea without reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 , "John Logan" <johnrloganis> wrote: > What is the place of a troll in the Absolute Brahman? the place of sand with respect to pearls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 It is easy to see when reading the writings of Snorre that Odin was a living person He had one eye, and describes himself a long list of siddhis. I will see if I can find this in English somewhere when I have the time. Odin and the gods fought the Trolls who were the enemies of gods and men. If the source I saw was right they are first mentioned in the Nordic Edda. Thor Heyerdahl's last book was about where he believed he came from and the researchers from the Norwegian TV treated him very badly just before he died. Because he is woven into folklore they had several theories on why just what was done at the time of writing Here is the Trolls home in the mountains The Soria Moria Castle seen from a distance http://www.gmsys.net/grafikk/kunst/1800-tallet/kittelsen/soriamoria.jpg and a bit closer http://nordlandslag.tripod.com/Ktrollcourt.jpg Alan David Bozzi [david.bozzi] 11. august 2004 07:16 Re: a troll named 'tony' , "John Logan" <johnrloganis> wrote: > What is the place of a troll in the Absolute Brahman? the place of sand with respect to pearls... /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor ---------- -- Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 , "Al Larus" <erilarend> wrote: > It is easy to see when reading the writings of Snorre that Odin was a living > person > He had one eye, and describes himself a long list of siddhis. > I will see if I can find this in English somewhere when I have the time. > > Odin and the gods fought the Trolls who were the enemies of gods and men. > If the source I saw was right they are first mentioned in the Nordic Edda. > > Thor Heyerdahl's last book was about where he believed he came from > and the researchers from the Norwegian TV treated him very badly just before > he died. > Because he is woven into folklore they had several theories on why just what > was done at the time of writing Namaste, Seems to me the trolls story is very similar to the Greek clash of the Titans, and the Hindu Asuras versus Devas etc. Most cultures seem to have a tradition in this way. Even Odin or Woden of Wednesday in English has some resonance in the myth of Santa Claus or Father Christmas. In Irish lore the Leprechaun can be mischevious also and it is believed to be a defeated race that lived on the island......common myths and legends.....Call me a Leprechaun if you wish, that is what my nickname was in the 60s when I lived in the usa....ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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