Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 The 'Red Button" question is just a personal term I've endeared for an age old question often asked in varying forms: If there were some mythical red button available to you that you could press anytime that would instantly 'eject' you into all encompassing and limitless GodHead (i.e. the experience that separates you from God is destroyed) would you press it? You'd have to 'give-up' all your worldly crap (relationships, bills, pleasure, body, disease, etc.) Surprisingly, I've discovered in my lifetime here that most folks would not press it. I on the other hand am one of the minority that would. I'm not really interested in the majority here at present that wouldn't press the Red Button (as I've heard that perspective before quite readily) I'm more interested in hearing the folks who are of the minority (like myself) who'd press the red button, and why...? And I don't mean those of you who are depressed or in some type of unbearable physical pain either. I am addressing the very few folks who are quite content and happy that *would* press the button... Love David (Red Button Pusher) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear David thank you for the joy you transmitted with your posting!!!!!! Of course i would push this wonderful RED BUTTON not being depressed not suffering any pain at all but isnt the GRACE i experience/d being able to rest in the SELF - and even if "only" for seconds already the RED BUTTON? of course nearly nobody chooses to use a RED BUTTON like this...... I did read somewhere sometimes that Ramana said only one in ten millions is ready to "go" into the SELF? isnt this the same you stated? thank you for being with me you see this posting is like fresh thank you for sending it thank me for breathing it have a great day in love michael >-- Messaggio Originale -- >K-politics, > "" <>, > "NondualitySalon" <NondualitySalon>, > ><BR> >"Love itself is the actual form of God."<BR> ><BR> >Sri Ramana<BR> ><BR> >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma</tt> ><br><br> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> ></tr> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> ><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2></font><br><a href="http://us.ard./SIG=129qj4t1s/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=g\ roups/S=1705060955:HM/EXP=1092371375/A=2164331/R=0/SIG=11eaelai9/*http://www.net\''>http://www.net\'>http://www.net\ flix.com/Default?mqso=60183351" alt=""><img src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo0504_testb_300250a052604\ ..gif" alt="click here" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td></tr></table> </td> ></tr> ><tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1 src="http://us.adserver./l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=groups/S=\ :HM/A=2164331/rand=121738435"></td></tr> ></table> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><br> ><tt><hr width="500"> ><b> Links</b><br> ><ul> ><li><br><a href="/">/gro\ up//</a><br> ><li><br><a href="?subject=Un">Har\ Terms of Service</a>. ></ul> ></tt> ></br> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > ></body></html> > ________________ Tiscali ADSL Senza Canone, paga solo quello che consumi! Non perdere la promozione valida fino al 31 agosto. Per te gratis il modem in comodato e l'attivazione. In piu' navighi a soli 1,5 euro l'ora per i primi tre mesi. Cosa aspetti? Attivala subito! http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/''>http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/'>http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 , David Bozzi <david.bozzi@i...> wrote: > The 'Red Button" question is just a personal term > I've endeared > for an age old question > often asked in varying forms: > > If there were some mythical red button > available to you > that you could press anytime > that would instantly 'eject' you into > all encompassing and limitless GodHead > (i.e. the experience that separates you from God is destroyed) > what experience? what seperation? the only thing that seperates "you" and "god" is identification. 'you' and 'he' are one, were one and will be one forever... as the zen saying goes: one can never become a buddha. one can only drop an illusion one was ever anything else... > would you press it? > > You'd have to 'give-up' all your worldly crap > (relationships, bills, pleasure, body, disease, etc.) > nothing/none to give up anything. only the mistaken identification with it... wake up! > Surprisingly, I've discovered in my lifetime here > that most folks would not press it. > > I on the other hand am one of the minority that would. > > I'm not really interested in the majority here at present > that wouldn't press the Red Button > (as I've heard that perspective before quite readily) > > I'm more interested in hearing the folks > who are of the minority > (like myself) > > who'd press the red button, > and why...? > > And I don't mean those of you > who are depressed > or in some type of unbearable physical pain either. > lol everything remains as it is... only the identification ceases. and along with it a sense of suffering. one observes the pain, depresion etc as they rise and fall... for whom? there is none there > I am addressing the very few folks > who are quite content and happy > that *would* press the button... > > Love David > (Red Button Pusher) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote: > what experience? what seperation? > the only thing that seperates "you" and "god" is identification. > 'you' and 'he' are one, were one and will be one forever... > as the zen saying goes: one can never become a buddha. one can > only > drop an illusion one was ever anything else... > > > would you press it? > > > > You'd have to 'give-up' all your worldly crap > > (relationships, bills, pleasure, body, disease, etc.) > > > > nothing/none to give up anything. only the mistaken identification > with it... wake up! > lol everything remains as it is... only the identification ceases. > and along with it a sense of suffering. one observes the pain, > depresion etc as they rise and fall... for whom? there is none there Lately there has been the sense of a dying ego. It has been kicking, screaming, acting out suffocating. I have felt this. (or is this 'I' that feels this ego too?) We all go through these phases (I think) So I (maybe not I, I'm not sure who I am anymore) have been just letting the thing die out like a fire. Last night out the corner of my eye I saw a small object ('bout the size of a mouse) shoot across the floor under the couch. The ceiling fan was on so I thought it must have a piece of paper ot something. I looked under the couch to verify. Nothing. A little later I find this little frog in my bedroom. ('bout the size of mouse). Cute little thing. I let it go. Then I think to myself whatever I thought I saw didn't move like a frog though. This morning I wake up to my dying ego kicking & screaming as usual because it knows that it is dying. I console myself. Balance and just watch. My cats pull me out of bed to feed them and I find a chewed up mouse on the living room floor. I immediately feel sadness for it. It's eyes were punctured out. I feel regret for not trusting my instincts and finding it so I could have let it out last night. I feed the cats. Then I discovered a traumatized little frog hiding under the vaccum cleaner. First I thought it was dead. No. But it was dry, hungry and picked on by some cats. I let him go. Well this all just brought out sadness. The attachment we have to who we think we are (but aren't) Something bigger and more real than our little ego chews it up and spits it out. It will eat up this sadness too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 , michaelbindel@t... wrote: > Dear David > > thank you for the joy you transmitted with your posting!!!!!! > > Of course i would push this wonderful RED BUTTON > > not being depressed not suffering any pain at all > > but isnt the GRACE i experience/d being able to rest in the SELF - and even > if "only" for seconds already the RED BUTTON? Thw world is the Red Button... > > of course nearly nobody chooses to use a RED BUTTON like this...... > > > I did read somewhere sometimes that Ramana said only one in ten > millions is ready to "go" into the SELF? geez talk about the odds going against you. > isnt this the same you stated? > > thank you for being with me > you see this posting is like fresh > thank you for sending it thank me for breathing it > > have a great day > > in love > > michael have a great day too michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 I pressed it already. --Greg At 12:10 PM 8/12/2004 +0000, David Bozzi wrote: >, michaelbindel@t... wrote: >> Dear David >> >> thank you for the joy you transmitted with your posting!!!!!! >> >> Of course i would push this wonderful RED BUTTON >> >> not being depressed not suffering any pain at all >> >> but isnt the GRACE i experience/d being able to rest in the SELF - >and even >> if "only" for seconds already the RED BUTTON? > > > > >Thw world is the Red Button... > > > > > >> >> of course nearly nobody chooses to use a RED BUTTON like this...... >> >> >> I did read somewhere sometimes that Ramana said only one in ten >> millions is ready to "go" into the SELF? > > >geez talk about the odds going against you. > > > >> isnt this the same you stated? >> >> thank you for being with me >> you see this posting is like fresh >> thank you for sending it thank me for breathing it >> >> have a great day >> >> in love >> >> michael > > >have a great day too michael > > > ></join>/grou\ p//join > > > ><> > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > >Sri Ramana > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > ><http://us.ard./SIG=129fq0ups/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group\ s/S=1705060955:HM/EXP=1092399148/A=2164331/R=0/SIG=11eaelai9/*http://www.netflix\ ..com/Default?mqso=60183351> >click here > > > > > >---------- > Links > * > * </>Har\ shaSatsangh/ > * > * > * <?subject=Un>HarshaSat\ sangh > * > * Your use of is subject to the <> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 michaelbindel wrote: >I did read somewhere sometimes that Ramana said only one in ten millions >is ready to "go" into the SELF? > > > ************************************** This does not sound like Ramana. Sounds more like Nisargadatta. Ramana instead used to say: You Are the Self! Here and Now! No Coming or Going! No button pushings! :-). Love and Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 David Bozzi wrote: >Something bigger and more real than our little ego >chews it up and spits it out. > > Ego is a reflection on the Self and disappears in the Self. >It will eat up this sadness too... > > Gentle fasting on raw vegetables and vegetables soups for a few days and long walks can help as well. Love and Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear BingoRam it was Ramana himself!!! Whenever i find it i will send it. And i understand it very well nearly nobody is really ready to "give up everything" because heshe LOVES and for me the idea with pushing a redbutton is very practical and shows insight understanding of facts of life!!!! All the best to youBingo in GD i trust Michael >-- Messaggio Originale -- > ><BR> >"Love itself is the actual form of God."<BR> ><BR> >Sri Ramana<BR> ><BR> >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma</tt> ><br><br> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> ></tr> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> ><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2></font><br><a href="http://us.ard./SIG=129qbttn1/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g\ roups/S=1705060955:HM/EXP=1092403841/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://compani\''>http://compani\'>http://compani\ on." alt=""><img src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/lrec_companion_04300\ 4.gif" alt="click here" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td></tr></table> </td> ></tr> ><tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1 src="http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=\ :HM/A=2128215/rand=362493830"></td></tr> ></table> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><br> ><tt><hr width="500"> ><b> Links</b><br> ><ul> ><li><br><a href="/">/gro\ up//</a><br> ><li><br><a href="?subject=Un">Har\ Terms of Service</a>. ></ul> ></tt> ></br> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > ></body></html> > ________________ Tiscali ADSL Senza Canone, paga solo quello che consumi! Non perdere la promozione valida fino al 31 agosto. Per te gratis il modem in comodato e l'attivazione. In piu' navighi a soli 1,5 euro l'ora per i primi tre mesi. Cosa aspetti? Attivala subito! http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/''>http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/'>http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 , Maharishi BingoRam <bingoram@c...> wrote: > Ego is a reflection on the Self and disappears in the Self. > >It will eat up this sadness too... > > > > > Gentle fasting on raw vegetables and vegetables soups for a few days and > long walks can help as well. > > > Love and Blessings I was doing long hikes earlier this season. Became a bit occupied lately. Must get back to it. blessings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear One, Yes, please do get back to us on this. Love and Blessings michaelbindel wrote: >Dear BingoRam > >it was Ramana himself!!! >Whenever i find it i will send it. >And i understand it very well > >nearly nobody is really ready to "give up everything" because heshe LOVES > >and for me the idea with pushing a redbutton is very practical and shows >insight understanding of facts of life!!!! > >All the best to youBingo > > >in GD i trust > >Michael > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Thanks David for bringing this out... hope no cat is going to chew on this... Wim David Bozzi <david.bozzi wrote: , "yosyx" wrote: > what experience? what seperation? > the only thing that seperates "you" and "god" is identification. > 'you' and 'he' are one, were one and will be one forever... > as the zen saying goes: one can never become a buddha. one can > only > drop an illusion one was ever anything else... > > > would you press it? > > > > You'd have to 'give-up' all your worldly crap > > (relationships, bills, pleasure, body, disease, etc.) > > > > nothing/none to give up anything. only the mistaken identification > with it... wake up! > lol everything remains as it is... only the identification ceases. > and along with it a sense of suffering. one observes the pain, > depresion etc as they rise and fall... for whom? there is none there Lately there has been the sense of a dying ego. It has been kicking, screaming, acting out suffocating. I have felt this. (or is this 'I' that feels this ego too?) We all go through these phases (I think) So I (maybe not I, I'm not sure who I am anymore) have been just letting the thing die out like a fire. Last night out the corner of my eye I saw a small object ('bout the size of a mouse) shoot across the floor under the couch. The ceiling fan was on so I thought it must have a piece of paper ot something. I looked under the couch to verify. Nothing. A little later I find this little frog in my bedroom. ('bout the size of mouse). Cute little thing. I let it go. Then I think to myself whatever I thought I saw didn't move like a frog though. This morning I wake up to my dying ego kicking & screaming as usual because it knows that it is dying. I console myself. Balance and just watch. My cats pull me out of bed to feed them and I find a chewed up mouse on the living room floor. I immediately feel sadness for it. It's eyes were punctured out. I feel regret for not trusting my instincts and finding it so I could have let it out last night. I feed the cats. Then I discovered a traumatized little frog hiding under the vaccum cleaner. First I thought it was dead. No. But it was dry, hungry and picked on by some cats. I let him go. Well this all just brought out sadness. The attachment we have to who we think we are (but aren't) Something bigger and more real than our little ego chews it up and spits it out. It will eat up this sadness too... /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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