Sayings of Jesus#84----Gospel of Thomas.Hindu Purana

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, zen2wrk@a... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 8/13/2004 8:33:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> aoclery writes:

 

Namaste Z,

 

There is too much evidence to the existence and crucifixion,

notwithstanding a lot of debunking going on. Of course some has

passed into myth in India and elsewhere as for example

this;...ONS..Tony.

 

Hindu Purana on Jesus

 

" Here is another version of St. Isa, who in this story is called

St. Isha.. [this story is from the Hindu Sutra: Natha-nama-vali]

 

"Isha Natha came to India at the age of fourteen. After this he

returned to his own country and began preaching. Soon after, his

brutish and materialistic countrymen conspired against him and had

him crucified. After crucifixion, or perhaps even before it, Isha

Natha entered samadhi or profound trance, by means of yoga. Seeing

him thus, the Jews presumed he was dead, and buried him in a tomb.

At that very moment however, one of his gurus or teachers, the great

Chetan Natha, happened to be in profound meditation, in the lower

reaches of the Himalayas, and he saw in a vision the tortures which

Isha Natha was undergoing. He therefore, made his body lighter than

air and passed over to the land of Israel.

 

The day of his arrival was marked with thunder and lightning, for

the god were angry with the Jews, and the whole world trembled. When

Chetan Natha arrived, he took the body of Isha Natha from the tomb,

woke him (Jesus) from his samadhi, and later led him off to the

sacred land of the Aryans. Isha Natha then established an ashram in

the lower regions of the Himalayas and he established the cult of

lingam and the yoni there."

 

According to Professor Fida Hassnain, this religion still exists

today in India and some of their hymns speak of John the Baptist."

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, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> , zen2wrk@a... wrote:

> >

> > In a message dated 8/13/2004 8:33:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > aoclery writes:

>

> Namaste Z,

>

> There is too much evidence to the existence and crucifixion,

> notwithstanding a lot of debunking going on. Of course some has

> passed into myth in India and elsewhere as for example

> this;...ONS..Tony.

>

> Hindu Purana on Jesus

>

> " Here is another version of St. Isa, who in this story is called

> St. Isha.. [this story is from the Hindu Sutra: Natha-nama-vali]

>

> "Isha Natha came to India at the age of fourteen. After this he

> returned to his own country and began preaching. Soon after, his

> brutish and materialistic countrymen conspired against him and had

> him crucified. After crucifixion, or perhaps even before it, Isha

> Natha entered samadhi or profound trance, by means of yoga. Seeing

> him thus, the Jews presumed he was dead, and buried him in a tomb.

> At that very moment however, one of his gurus or teachers, the

great

> Chetan Natha, happened to be in profound meditation, in the lower

> reaches of the Himalayas, and he saw in a vision the tortures

which

> Isha Natha was undergoing. He therefore, made his body lighter

than

> air and passed over to the land of Israel.

>

> The day of his arrival was marked with thunder and lightning, for

> the god were angry with the Jews, and the whole world trembled.

When

> Chetan Natha arrived, he took the body of Isha Natha from the

tomb,

> woke him (Jesus) from his samadhi, and later led him off to the

> sacred land of the Aryans. Isha Natha then established an ashram

in

> the lower regions of the Himalayas and he established the cult of

> lingam and the yoni there."

>

> According to Professor Fida Hassnain, this religion still exists

> today in India and some of their hymns speak of John the Baptist."

 

Namaste,

 

Before I get accused again of anti semitism; let me say this--I had

nothing to do with writing the Puranas. So don't start emailing me

privately as usual. I have tried to explain this Jews reference in

Christian, Muslim and Hindu texts and I'll try again.

At the time of Jesus there were Pharisees, Samaritians, Essenes and

Sadducees. The Saducees only believed in the Torah, and persecuted

anyone into astrology the prophets etc, and had being doing this for

years, as referenced in the Dead Sea Scrolls etc. The Sadducees had

been associated with Herod in some way and were collaborators with

the Roman Occupation, as well as running the Temple---an extremely

luctrative enterprise---selling animals for sacrifice, changing

money etc etc etc. It seems they didn't believe much in mysticism

and were not into 'resurrection' as were the other Hebrew groups.

The fastest growing group at the time were the Essenes and their

associate peripheral devotees. However they were very much into the

Kabbalah, prophets, astrology etc-so would incur the ire of the

Sadducees. Which they did and look what happened to Jesus and others.

The Sadducees were Judaics not Essenes or Israelites, so hence the

name Jews comes up. This has nothing to do with people who call

themselves Jews today. The Sadducees were destroyed with the Temple

by the Romans in about 70 C.E. The remaining 'Jews', were the

Pharisees and the Jewish Christians. So it was identifying with a

name that causes the problem. If present day 'Jews' called

themselves by another name, there wouldn't be this problem. Perhaps

sticking to Talmudic Pharisaism or just plain Hebrews perhaps.

This is common, as in England were people talk of King Arthur as

their own hero, when in fact he led the Britons who were in fact

fighting the ancestors of the English--the Anglo-Saxons.

What's in a name--a lot it seems---give a dog a bad name etc. Even

the Greeks of today are not fully descended from the Ancient Greeks

but they identify............ONS..Tony.