Hanuman and the monkey and bear people were real.

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In a message dated 8/28/2004 12:53:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

aoclery writes:

 

Namaste,IMO.

 

Hanuman wasn't a monkey as such but either a 'mixture', or a

different type of hominid, there were at least a dozen types of

manlike beings. In those days there wasn't the human template as is

today. Or rather it wasn't extant or exclusive. Our present general

form only was consolidated about 9,000 B.C., and is

diminutive........ONS...Tony.

 

Ask any nurse at a maternity clinic, how many babies are born with

little tails, and other animal characteristics. These are genetic

throwbacks to the days of the mixtures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please don't go totally goonie on us, Tony. It was tough enough to keep

your status in the group from the last bit of kookiness...and this just smacks

of well...lunacy. For the record, Tony, how many chimpanzees or gorillas do

you see with tails????

 

We have cartilege inour ears and noses and we're not recently related to

either pigs or sharks, either.

 

Can you maybe accept that some stories are simply meant to teach us

something about our natures and our heritage, without taking them all

literally?

 

Honest to Gosh, I am just about totally fed up. Many of us have asked to

you desist with the Jesus Rambling things...but as soon as the list comes back

on, there you are...just prattling as usual, not having taken one bit of good

wisdom from everyone's comments.

 

I believe that most of us are most curious to learn how and when you were

dropped on your head. Once we understand that event, perhaps our difficulties

with your remarks may be over.

 

Just about out of my own infinite storehouse of patience...

 

Zenbob

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste,IMO.

 

Hanuman wasn't a monkey as such but either a 'mixture', or a

different type of hominid, there were at least a dozen types of

manlike beings. In those days there wasn't the human template as is

today. Or rather it wasn't extant or exclusive. Our present general

form only was consolidated about 9,000 B.C., and is

diminutive........ONS...Tony.

 

Ask any nurse at a maternity clinic, how many babies are born with

little tails, and other animal characteristics. These are genetic

throwbacks to the days of the mixtures.

[Guest guest]

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> Namaste,IMO.

>

> Hanuman wasn't a monkey as such but either a 'mixture', or a

> different type of hominid, there were at least a dozen types of

> manlike beings. In those days there wasn't the human template as

is

> today. Or rather it wasn't extant or exclusive. Our present

general

> form only was consolidated about 9,000 B.C., and is

> diminutive........ONS...Tony.

>

> Ask any nurse at a maternity clinic, how many babies are born with

> little tails, and other animal characteristics. These are genetic

> throwbacks to the days of the mixtures.

 

Namaste,

 

alt="Readings 364"> READING 364-3

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 105th St. &

Ocean, Virginia Beach, Va., this 16th day of February, 1932, in

accordance with request made by those present.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis,

Steno. Mildred Davis, Gray Salter, Hugh Lynn and L. B. Cayce.

Time: 11:40 A. M. Eastern Standard Time.

(Suggestion to continue information on Atlantis) TEXT

 

EC: Yes, we have the subject and those conditions. As has been said,

much data has been received from time to time through psychic forces

as respecting conditions in or through the period, or ages, of this

continent's existence. That the continent existed is being proven as

a fact.

Then, what took place during the period, or periods, when it was

being broken up? What became of the inhabitants? What was the

character of their civilization? Are there any evidences of those,

or any portion of, the inhabitants' escape? The POSITION of the

continent, and the like, MUST be of interest to peoples in the

present day, if either by inference that individuals are being born

into the earth plane to develop in the present, or are people being

guided in their spiritual interpretation of individuals' lives or

developments BY the spirits of those who inhabited such a continent.

In either case, if these be true, they ARE WIELDING - and are to

wield - an influence upon the happenings of the present day world.

The position as the continent Atlantis occupied, is that as between

the Gulf of Mexico on the one hand - and the Mediterranean upon the

other. Evidences of this lost civilization are to be found in the

Pyrenees and Morocco on the one hand, British Honduras, Yucatan and

America upon the other. There are some protruding portions within

this that must have at one time or another been a portion of this

great continent. The British West Indies or the Bahamas, and a

portion of same that may be seen in the present - if the geological

survey would be made in some of these - especially, or notably, in

Bimini and in the Gulf Stream through this vicinity, these may be

even yet determined.

What, then, are the character of the peoples? To give any proper

conception, may we follow the line of a group, or an individual

line, through this continent's existence - and gain from same

something of their character, their physiognomy, and their spiritual

and physical development.

In the period, then - some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years

before the entry of << Ram>> into India [see 364-3, Par. R2] -

there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius [?], who had first

NOTED that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that

portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male

and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms

in the physical sense, these were much RATHER of the nature of

THOUGHT FORMS, or able to push out OF THEMSELVES in that direction

in which its development took shape in thought - much in the way and

manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake,

in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own

desire for that as builded or added to the material conditions, they

became hardened or set - much in the form of the existent human body

of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much

in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into

that form as the red, or the mixture peoples - or colors; known then

later by the associations as the RED race. These, then, able to use

IN their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in

their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of

developments as has been followed more closely in that of the

yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the

world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities

for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular

portion of the globe than in others - and while the destruction of

this continent and the peoples are far beyond any of that as has

been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still

remains - as has that influence OF those peoples in that life of

those peoples to whom those that did escape during the periods of

destruction make or influence the lives of those peoples TO whom

they came. As they MAY in the present, either through the direct

influence of being regenerated, or re-incarnated into the earth, or

through that of the MENTAL application on through the influences as

may be had upon thought OF individuals or groups by speaking from

that environ.

In the MANNER of living, in the manner of the moral, of the social,

of the religious life of these peoples: There, classes existed much

in the same order as existed among others; yet the like of the

warlike INFLUENCE did NOT exist in the peoples - AS a people - as it

did in the OTHER portions of the universe.

To be continued. Copy to Self

Copy to File

Copy to Ass'n

BACKGROUND

 

Subject of 364-3 - "Atlantis."

See 364-1 and 364-2 .

REPORTS

 

2/16/32, 3:50 P.M. See 364-4 , a continuation of information re.

Atlantis, being sought as the basis for EC's lecture before the

Norfolk Groups of A.R.E. on 2/19/32. [see 364-6 , Par. R3.]

GD's note: In 364-3 re Par. 5 reference to << Ram>> entering India

it might be pertinent to study East Indian lore.

---

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[Guest guest]

Dearest Zenbabaji:

 

Hope you will forgive me but some of your comments to Tonyji could

be interpreted as very personal.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

, zen2wrk@a... wrote:

> Please don't go totally goonie on us, Tony. It was tough enough

to keep

> your status in the group from the last bit of kookiness...and

this just smacks

> of well...lunacy. For the record, Tony, how many chimpanzees or

gorillas do

> you see with tails????

>

> We have cartilege inour ears and noses and we're not recently

related to

> either pigs or sharks, either.

>

> Can you maybe accept that some stories are simply meant to teach

us

> something about our natures and our heritage, without taking them

all literally?

>

> Honest to Gosh, I am just about totally fed up. Many of us have

asked to

> you desist with the Jesus Rambling things...but as soon as the

list comes back

> on, there you are...just prattling as usual, not having taken one

bit of good

> wisdom from everyone's comments.

>

> I believe that most of us are most curious to learn how and when

you were

> dropped on your head. Once we understand that event, perhaps our

difficulties

> with your remarks may be over.

>

> Just about out of my own infinite storehouse of patience...

>

> Zenbob

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/28/2004 5:14:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

aoclery writes:

 

Namaste,

 

alt="Readings 364"> READING 364-3

This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 105th St. &

Ocean, Virginia Beach, Va., this 16th day of February, 1932, in

accordance with request made by those present.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis,

Steno. Mildred Davis, Gray Salter, Hugh Lynn and L. B. Cayce.

Time: 11:40 A. M. Eastern Standard Time.

(Suggestion to continue information on Atlantis) TEXT

 

 

 

Tony, this is not an Edgar Cayce group and I read all of his work probably

before you had ever heard of Edgar Cayce (We're talking the mid-1960's here).

Please discontinue this line of discussion in the Satsangh as it simply is

not a reasonable topic to exhaust here in your usual fashion. If you wish to

write to me personally about this, or to others, that's fine...but do not

waste the group's resources on this.

 

THank You,

 

 

Zenbob

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/28/2004 6:17:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

harsha writes:

 

Dearest Zenbabaji:

 

Hope you will forgive me but some of your comments to Tonyji could

be interpreted as very personal.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

I should certainly hope so. He has insulted my entire family tree, and many

of the branches to which in-laws and relatives still swing from.

 

Love,

 

Zenbob

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony for the source. I know you are heavily into Edgar Cayce

and respect the work he did. I have heard of Cayce but don't know

much about him. Cayce has probably made some good predictions and

done some nice psychic readings. You must know, however, that a lot

of people don't accept that information as scientific and authentic.

 

Sri Ramana always emphasized that we should not be distracted too

much by side issues and I think you understand that very well

because you understand the essence of Advaita.

 

OK, everyone. A big hug for Tony! :-).

 

Love,

Harsha

 

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> , "Tony OClery"

<aoclery>

> wrote:

> > Namaste,IMO.

>

> Namaste,

>

> alt="Readings 364"> READING 364-3

> This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 105th St.

&

> Ocean, Virginia Beach, Va., this 16th day of February, 1932, in

> accordance with request made by those present.

> Present: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis,

> Steno. Mildred Davis, Gray Salter, Hugh Lynn and L. B. Cayce.

> Time: 11:40 A. M. Eastern Standard Time.

> (Suggestion to continue information on Atlantis) TEXT

>

>

[Guest guest]

, zen2wrk@a... wrote:

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/28/2004 12:53:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> aoclery writes:

> Ask any nurse at a maternity clinic, how many babies are born

with

> little tails, and other animal characteristics. These are genetic

> throwbacks to the days of the mixtures.

Please don't go totally goonie on us, Tony. It was tough enough

to keep

> your status in the group from the last bit of kookiness...and

this just smacks

> of well...lunacy. For the record, Tony, how many chimpanzees or

gorillas do

> you see with tails????

 

Namaste,

 

In the ancient Indian writing they talk of giants and mixtures, as

do the Irish.

 

http://community-2.webtv.net/AncientArts/AncientGiants/

 

One's mind cannot be set in stone........It has to be fluid for it

is its nature.............ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> Namaste,IMO.

>

> Ask any nurse at a maternity clinic, how many babies are born with

> little tails, and other animal characteristics. These are genetic

> throwbacks to the days of the mixtures.

 

Baby tales on baby tails...

:-)

 

http://www.aetheronline.com/mario/Eye-Openers/tails_in_humans.htm

 

And from:

http://www.visual-evolution.com/tails.htm

 

According to CECIL ADAMS:

"Still, at one point in his/her life, every human being does have a

tail. Human embryos have a tail that measures about one-sixth of the

size of the embryo itself. As the embryo develops into a fetus, the

tail is absorbed by the growing body, but some traces remain even in

adults. Occasionally, a child is born with a "soft tail," described

by one embryologist as containing "no vertebrae, but blood vessels,

muscles, and nerves, of the same consistency as the short tail of the

Barbary ape." Modern procedures allow doctors to eliminate the tail

at birth, but some children have had to learn to live with them.

 

Also from the same source:

"Some Creationists say "Occasionally a human baby is born with a tail-

like appendage and this is said to be evidence that our ancestors had

tails. Actually, such rare congenital deformities are usually a type

of fatty tumor having no relationship to the tail of a monkey."

 

Wim