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, zen2wrk@a... wrote:

> Is the absense of all sensation and thought

> actually the trigger point for bliss

> or does something else have to happen?

 

 

Hi my dearest Zenbob,

 

Could it be that misuse, abuse and diminished use of sensation and

thought - godgivens, just like any other human faculty - is what

keeps us away from our innate bliss that is actually already the

case...?

 

Of course those who know me know that my answer is yes.

 

If freedom (moksha) is already our native state - though seemingly

veiled - is bliss not there with it already?

 

Of course those who know me know that my answer is yes.

 

The 'via positiva' as well as the 'via negativea' result in the same

recovery of our innate human-divine state of grace, bliss, freedom

etc...

 

Sensation and thought surface or resurface in Bliss as delightful

instruments... (Zenbob, your comment on Angela de Foligno was

wonderful.)

 

The three Anti-Graces to joyful sensation and free thought:

Resistance, Objection and Judgement are the attendants (the 'Three

Illusions') at the birth of many a pseudo self or ego.

 

Wim

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