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In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:18:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

"Who else but my venerable Master, Ribhu, could have thus drawn my mind from

the superficialities of physical existence to the true Being of Self? O

benign Master, I carve thy blessings."

 

 

 

 

Great story, of course. I carve blessings, too!

 

Zenbob

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Antoine

 

thank you specially for this mail

 

great

 

 

please i wait for your reply

 

 

lots of joy and love to you wherever you are at the moment and whatever

situation you are confronting now

 

you radiate joy!!!!

 

 

in GD i trust

 

 

 

michael

 

 

 

>Antoine Carré <antoine.carre

>

><>,<onsriyantra>

> I or You ?

>Tue, 7 Sep 2004 21:05:26 -0400

>

>Sorry, I got this book and cannot stop quoting from it. I just love the

>Humor of Maharshi

>

><< D: Instead of inquiring 'Who am I?". Can I put the question to myself

>'Who are You?", since then my mind may be fixed on You whom I consider to

>be God in the form of Guru. Perhaps, I would be nearer the goal of my quest

>by that inquiry than by asking myself "Who am I?"

>

>Marhashi: Whatever form your inquiry may take, you must finally come to

>the one "I", the Self. All these distinctions made between the "I" and

>"you", Master and disciple, etc., are merely a sign of one's ignorance. The

>"I" Supreme alone is. To think otherwise is to delude oneself.

>

>A story from Puranas about Sage Ribhu and his disciple Nidagha is

>particularly instructive in this context.

>

>Although Ribhu taught his disciple the supreme Truth of the One Braman

>without a second, Nidagha, in spite of his erudition and understanding, did

>not get sufficient conviction to adopt and follow the path of jnana, but

>settled down in his native town to lead a life devoted to the observance of

>ceremonial religion.

>

>But the Sage loved his disciple as deeply as the latter venerated his

>Master. In spite of his age, Ribhu would himself go to his disciple in the

>town, just to see how far the latter had outgrown his ritualism. At times

>the Sage went in disguise, so that he might observe how Nidagha would act

>when he did not know he was being observed by his Master.

>

>On one such occasion Ribhu, who had put on the disguise of a village

>rustic, found Nidagha intently watching a royal procession. Unrecognized by

>the town-dweller Nidagha, the village rustic inquired what the bustle was

>all about, and was told that the king was going in procession.

>

>"Oh! It is the King. He goes in procession! But where is he?" asked the

>rustic.

>"There, on the elephant," says Nidagha.

>"You say the king is on the elephant. Yes I see the two," said the rustic.

>"But which is the king which is the elephant?"

>"What!" exclaimed Nidagha. "You see the two, but do not know that the man

>above is the king and the animal below is the elephant? What is the use of

>talking to a man like you?"

>"Pray, be not impatient with an ignorant man like me," begged the rustic.

>"But you said above and below - what do they mean? --

>Nidagha could not stand it more. "You see the king and the elephant, the

>one above and the other below. Yet want to know what is meant by 'above'

>and 'below'?" burst out Nidagha. "If things seen and words spoken can

>convey so little to you, action alone can teach you. Bend forward, and you

>will know it all to well."

>

>The rustic did as he was told. Nidagha got on his shoulders and said. "Know

>it now. I am above as the king, you are below as the elephant. Is that

>clear enough?"

>

>"No, not yet," was the rustic's quiet reply. "You say you are above like

>the king and I am below like the elephant. The 'king', the 'elephant',

>'above', 'below', so far it is clear. But pray, tell me what you mean by

>'I' and 'you'?"

>

>When Nidagha was thus confronted all of a sudden with the mighty problem of

>defining the 'you' apart from the 'I', light dawned on his mind. At once he

>jumped down and fell at his Master`s feet, saying "Who else but my

>venerable Master, Ribhu, could have thus drawn my mind from the

>superficialities of physical existence to the true Being of Self? O benign

>Master, I carve thy blessings."

>

>Therefore, while your aim is to transcend here and now these

>superficialities of physical existence through atmavichara, where is the

>scope for making the distinctions of "you" and "I", which pertain only to

>the body? When you turn your mind within, seeking the Source of thought,

>where is the "you" and where is the 'I'?

>

>You should seek and be the Self that includes all. >>

>

>From The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi

>

>

>

 

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zen2wrk

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:29 AM

Re: I or You ?

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:18:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

"Who else but my venerable Master, Ribhu, could have thus drawn my mind from

the superficialities of physical existence to the true Being of Self? O

benign Master, I carve thy blessings."

 

 

 

 

Great story, of course. I carve blessings, too!

 

Zenbob

But only at Thanksgving

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/join

 

 

 

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

 

Sri Ramana

 

In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

 

 

 

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b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

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zen2wrk

 

In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:18:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

"Who else but my venerable Master, Ribhu, could have thus drawn my mind from

the superficialities of physical existence to the true Being of Self? O

benign Master, I carve thy blessings."

 

 

Great story, of course. I carve blessings, too!

 

Zenbob

 

But only at Thanksgiving

 

Sam

 

So now I have to learn to carve a craving for turkey

 

Antoine

 

 

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In a message dated 9/8/2004 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

So now I have to learn to carve a craving for turkey

 

Antoine

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

 

 

And Greece, too in honor of the Olympics...

 

:)

 

ZBobo

 

 

 

 

 

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zen2wrk

Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:40 PM

Re: I or You ?

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/8/2004 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

So now I have to learn to carve a craving for turkey

 

Antoine

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

 

 

And Greece, too in honor of the Olympics...

 

:)

 

ZBobo

Best thing to do is to find a greasy turkey and crave that!!!

 

Samiam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/join

 

 

 

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

 

Sri Ramana

 

In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

 

 

 

/

 

b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

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Sam

 

 

zen2wrk

 

In a message dated 9/8/2004 3:19:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

antoine.carre writes:

 

So now I have to learn to carve a craving for turkey

 

Antoine

 

 

And Greece, too in honor of the Olympics...

 

:)

 

ZBobo

 

Best thing to do is to find a greasy turkey and crave that!!!

 

Samiam

 

We could use the 'I' as a knife and the 'You' as the fork.

 

Titoine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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