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In a message dated 9/15/2004 9:30:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

aoclery writes:

 

In Sanskrit it means Moha Kshaya

or 'destruction of illusion or work of Maya'. So technically one

could argue to do this requires some achievement-------see what I

mean?? I could go on with other translations of sankrit that convey

different meanings etc but what it the point?

 

 

 

Sanskrit is only a written language. It cannot actually be "spoken" or

pronounced. It must first be rendered into a spoken equivelent of ancient

Hindi

or related dialect, then translated to modern Hindi and then to English.

Whatever words you choose in Hindustani transliterated to English have nothing

to do with ancient Sanskrit. Sanskrit means "without words." And actually

the phras eyou are using can mean meaning things, but most likely it means

"Higher understanding" since "Moha" means greater or higher and

"Kshaya" means

perception or understanding...but it has nothing to do with Maya or

destruction.

 

Zenbob

 

 

 

 

 

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I have had the good fortune to learn under a great Master whose

identity I am not at liberty to reveal. According to him MOKSHA is

Liberation from the Cycle of Births and Deaths (what is known as the

Samsaara Chakra) and MUKTI is Absolution or the Dissolution of the

Individual Soul in Brahman, the Cosmic Soul. Hence I feel that people

should exercise judicious care in using these terms.

With Love,

mmnarayan

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Tony OClery

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:57 PM

Semantics and Sanskrit

Namaste,Wim et al,I find it non productive to argue about the meaning

of Sanskrit expressions in English.They do not translate literally at

all.So whether a person says they achieve moksha, or there is

liberation or not liberation, because we are already liberated etc

etc is all non productive. We all know roughly what Moksha means in

English it means Liberation. In Sanskrit it means Moha Kshaya or

'destruction of illusion or work of Maya'. So technically one could

argue to do this requires some achievement-------see what I mean?? I

could go on with other translations of sankrit that convey different

meanings etc but what it the point?If one talks of Moksha or Mukti,

or Liberation or Freedom, or any other word that actually attempts to

describe the indescibable or something that cannot me experienced

even----what is the point.So lets not get into picking up on

semantics, especially Sanskrit. Lets just take a person at face value

and know what he means by Moksha etc, in our own state of

prajna..........ONS..Tony./join

"Love itself is

the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam"

by Suri Nagamma

 

 

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