ascending & descending consciousness

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hello everyone,

 

I asked Hafizullah if the descending

wave is what is called grace..

 

he didn't answer yet

 

what do you think?

 

I think it is what cought Ramana

enrout the Amrit-nadi

 

metta, Era

 

 

Personal identity and enlightenment cannot go together.  

 

Indeed, there is actually no such thing as either

personal identity or enlightenment,

and the apperception of this fact is itself enlightenment.

 

Balsekar

 

 

Actually, the Sufis say that personal identity and enlightenment CAN go

together; it's a form of integration. But that process happens on the

*descent* of consciousness into manifestation. On the *ascent*,

Balsekar is correct.

 

Hafizullah

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