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Dear Era

 

what i feel reading your answer

 

you need help

 

so please let me know where i can assist you

 

tell me clearcut whats troubling you

 

in down to earth language

 

 

i am ready

 

 

regarding Hafzulla do you know a website about him?

 

regarding what you wrote further

 

these words lead to headache in this ignorant michael a sign that

something is not ok

 

regarding KABBALAH i have the greatest respect for this mystical path

but like with everything only whes used in deep respect and so on....

 

 

be embraced

 

 

in LOVE i AM

 

michael

 

>"Era" <mi_nok To:

> Re:

>ascending & descending consciousness Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:13:07 -0000

>

>"MICHAEL BINDEL" <michael_bindel@h...> wrote: > Dear Era > > thank

you for

>your answer. > Please let me know who is > >

> Hafizullah

>

>he is from SufiMystic

>

>Michael, I am having faith confusions now

>

>here is an other answer by him

>

>hafizullah@a... wrote: > <<E: > in Sant Mat I think we call it the > Naam.

>or Shabd > >> > >H: Yes, what I am speaking of is related to the Shabd. > >

>But the Shabd Yoga is very otherworldly and oriented to the ascending >

>current, not the descending current or to integration.

>

>

>E: yes, thats why after years of sanmat I was searching and found Falun

>Gong to practice

>

>besides I am drawn to the nontheist Buddhist thought

>

>

> > H: What I'm speaking of > is the same as descending the Sephirothic Tree

>in Kabbala, i.e., building a > temple of light in the phenomenal (manifest)

>world. In Christianity it is > about the Divine Immanence instead of the

>Divine Transcendence. The term > "Shekinah" is also relevant here. >

>

>now you are talknig thanks, Era

>

>E: > in Sant Mat I think we call it the > Naam, or Shabd > > the founder of

>it was a sufi poet > Kabir Sahib > "Shabd; this audible sound is > belived

>to be the creative and > sustaining force of the universe. It > is also

>known as the "Audible Life > Stream", the "Music of the Spheres" > or

God,

>all the religions mention > it by different names. In the Bible > it is

>called the Word; "In the > beginning there was the Word and the > Word was

>with God and the Word was God." > > Surat means in "Surat Shabd Yoga"

> our

>attention, or more specifically > the attention of the soul. Usually, > our

>attention is scattered influenced > by our thoughts, our emotions, and >

>the sensory input we receive it > takes conscious effort to tune out > all

>these stimuli and tune with the > Sound to our soul." > from > >

><http://santmat-meditation.net/santmat/shabd-1.html>

>

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

> Dear Era

>

> what i feel reading your answer

>

> you need help

>

> so please let me know where i can assist you

>

> tell me clearcut whats troubling you

>

> in down to earth language

>

>

> i am ready

>

 

thank you

 

> regarding Hafzulla do you know a website about him?

>

 

no

 

> regarding what you wrote further

>

> these words lead to headache in this ignorant michael a sign that

> something is not ok

>

> regarding KABBALAH i have the greatest respect for this mystical path

> but like with everything only whes used in deep respect and so on....

>

>

> be embraced

>

>

> in LOVE i AM

>

 

 

my problem is multilayered Michael

 

I'm still having Kundalini quickenings

with physical pain

 

what I try to remedy with Falun Gong

and the amplified energies scare me

even more so, because I don't understand

what they are... so I am searching to

get a picture

 

also I am in the mids of switching belive systems:

 

since I left my master and the theist

thought of Sant Mat I feel faithless

and homeless and lost my Sangha

 

[sant Thakar just had heart surgery and

he appointed his successor]

 

nowadays I'm reading more and more

non-dual philosophy, but the neoadvatin

rhetoric of no sadhana is needed

disturbs me

 

etc etc

 

metta, Era

> michael

>

Dear Era > > thank you for

> >your answer. > Please let me know who is > >

> > Hafizullah

 

 

he is from the SufiMystic club

 

> >Michael, I am having faith confusions now

> >

> >here is an other answer by him

> >

> >hafizullah@a... wrote: > <<E: > in Sant Mat I think we call it the > Naam.

> >or Shabd > >> > >H: Yes, what I am speaking of is related to the

Shabd. > >

> >But the Shabd Yoga is very otherworldly and oriented to the ascending >

> >current, not the descending current or to integration.

> >

> >

> >E: yes, thats why after years of santmat I was searching and found Falun

> >Gong to practice

> >

> >besides I am drawn to the nontheist Buddhist thought

> >

> >

> > > H: What I'm speaking of > is the same as descending the Sephirothic Tree

> >in Kabbala, i.e., building a > temple of light in the phenomenal (manifest)

> >world. In Christianity it is > about the Divine Immanence instead of the

> >Divine Transcendence. The term > "Shekinah" is also relevant here. >

> >

> >now you are talking thanks, Era

> >

> >E: > in Sant Mat I think we call it the > Naam, or Shabd > > the founder of

> >it was a sufi poet > Kabir Sahib > "Shabd; this audible sound is > belived

> >to be the creative and > sustaining force of the universe. It > is also

> >known as the "Audible Life > Stream", the "Music of the Spheres" >

or God,

> >all the religions mention > it by different names. In the Bible > it is

> >called the Word; "In the > beginning there was the Word and the > Word was

> >with God and the Word was God." > > Surat means in "Surat Shabd

Yoga" > our

> >attention, or more specifically > the attention of the soul. Usually, > our

> >attention is scattered influenced > by our thoughts, our emotions, and >

> >the sensory input we receive it > takes conscious effort to tune out > all

> >these stimuli and tune with the > Sound to our soul." > from > >

> ><http://santmat-meditation.net/santmat/shabd-1.html>