Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Era regarding Falun Gong i defintely do not have a positive feeling since long of course i do not want to hurt you you - like many others - have awakened this holy energy prematurely it is not a rare phenomena thats why you have to calm down to accept yourself as you are now michael >"Era" <mi_nok > > > Re: for E R A >Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:57:17 -0000 > >"MICHAEL BINDEL" <michael_bindel@h...> wrote: > >Hi again Michael, > > > > Dear Era > > > > at first stop every kundalini practice, every practice you used in the > > groups you have been. > > >I tried that, my master forbid it also: > he said that Sant Mat meditation >starts at ajna, so I should never > touch the serpent.. but I did not > listen > >AND the surges happen to me at 3am > in my sleep not during practice > >I can't meditate because of these >surges happen uninvited during >meditation too and its force twists >my body painfully > >somehow Falun Gong; which feels like > coming from above and outside of >me seemed to help for a while to >subdue my Chi > >but now this amplied too and it >scares me > > > > C al m down > > > > Somehow i have the feeling that you should be happy to have left the old > > "groups" > > > > Having found advaita is a clear sign that you are on the right way for >your > > development > > > > try to stop thinking > > > > let the thoughts pass by without any attachments to them > > > > read a lot literature about Ramana Maharshi > > > > W a l k w a l k w a l k > > > > minimum 30min a day better an hour > > >yes, I was told this before > > > > > let me know about your life where you live and so on > > > > you are welcomed to write to my email-address > > > thank you again Michael > >I'll write in privi, Era > > > > > > > > in love for the ONE AND ONLY > > > > > > michael > > > > > > in LOVE i AM > > > > > > _______________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Dear Era, I agree with Wim on the "serpent". The mind could become suggestable in a non-duality sort of way.It is important that you do not fester on your thoughts, lest you suffer. During meditation, try to focus on your heart chakra and think of "unconditional" or God's/Buddha"s/Allah/Shiva's compassion or love.Sometimes one would feel great love and tend to cry a bit but one must not be too attached to it and should focus on the Divine All things happen with a reason under the karmic law.There is nothing premature. Actually I am very happy for you........ this is a wonderful gift. Om Shanti >"Wim" <wim_borsboom > > > Re: for E R A >Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:24:03 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 24.68.98.204 >X-Sender: wim_borsboom >Received: from n6a.bulk.scd. 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(66.218.66.88) by >mta1.grp.scd. with SMTP; 30 Sep 2004 20:24:13 -0000 >Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n4.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 30 Sep >2004 20:24:04 -0000 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG2WFzvkyKZ0NGQIS5El+tG >X--Newman-Property: groups-email >X-Apparently- >Message-ID: <cjhq13+prp6 (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> >In-<cjhf8c+3naj (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 >X-Mailer: Message Poster >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.88 >X--Profile: wim_borsboom >Mailing-List: list ; contact >-owner >Delivered-mailing list >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <> >Return-Path: >sentto-73173-38470-1096575854-gandarloda=hotmail.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2004 20:25:29.0843 (UTC) >FILETIME=[A0EB6430:01C4A72B] > >Dear Era, >(...and thank you Michael for spotting Era's pain and engaging her in >finding solutions.) > >"Everything happens as it should..." >Don't we say that often? > >Well, if that is so, then one needs to apply that insight to the >occurrence of "Kundalini Awakening" in one's life as well. >This would mean then - although this is contrary to popular belief - >that Kundalini Awakening is NOT - can not be - premature. >This then means Era, that you may need to look at this wonderful >occurrence of Kundalini in your life differently... there is hope... >an immense amount... the grace of Kundalini is there for you to >accept, its energy which now still may feel 'too much', even painful >has miraculous powers... > >I've been writing about Kundalini for about eight years now to various >forums, and although my view on Kundalini may be controversial, in my >work with hundreds of clients, this diffrent viewpoint has worked >extremely well. >The main gist of my view is that Kundalini is our own inborn self >healing mechanism... >At some point in our lives, when we cannot "take it anymore", our life >seems so run or hampered by others, our life appears so negatively >influenced by external factors, we don't seem to have a handle on our >own life, we see that our life has become totally conditional... >then... we all of a sudden discover that we are on the verge of >seeming to lose our own authentic free will (yes we have that) and our >own clarity of mind (and yes, we have that too)... At that point our >own deeper self jumps in, our own spirit, our very soul jumps into >action... >The self-healing force of our core-being is so strong that it starts >to clear everything up and out that is not authentically ours and it >is true that its dynamics can be relentless and painfull unless... >unless one accepts Kundalini's graces fully. >That force has been recognized in all spiritual environments of all >cultures in the history of humankind and goes under various names >names, Shakti, Chi, Holy Spirit, Qi, Kundalini Power, Tao, etc. >Whatever it is though, Kundalini is NOT alien to us, it is the >original force of your life, your being here on our wonderful Earth >(Oh yes!) > >This force was there when you conceived "your will to be" and brought >about your conception in the womb of this universe so that YOU as ERA >could represent ALL in your own unique way... > >... >I so recognize the pain of which you speak, I recognize also very >clearly in your decription of your nightly energy surges that this is >pure unadulterated Kundalini Shakti... >It cannot be stopped, it should not be, it may not be... You go with >it my dear ERA!!! Fullheartedly. > >The Holy Spirit of your own Divine Soul and Self is at work to help >you to reclaim yourself, reclaim your original being, to help the (for >now) 'small you' re-cognize that you are the DIVINE YOU. > >... >For starters, see if you can develop your own view on this and not be >led astray by others (our wonderful friend Michael did not know that >yet) who may claim that this 'awakening' is premature... > >Can it be premature to become oneself again??? > >... >If it seems that you do not understand yourself, just like others who >do not understand themselves very well either, can you expect that >those others can have any real inkling of what is happening to you? >Sure others want to help you, that is very authentic, they do not want >to see you suffer, but if their help is not based on an unconditional >acceptance of who you are and that what is happening to you is >well-timed and YOUR way of returning to your right to be free at this >auspicious moment, then they are only a hindering to your reemergence >as your own individual self... a unique representation of the Divine >SELF in unconditional love... > >So Era, stay the course and work WITH the graces of Kundalini, you >will find that as you do that - as you see that it is the greater YOU >healing the 'diminished you' - that it will all fall in place... > >When this happened to me, many years ago, I told my wife and friends >that I was going to "...let the chips fall where they may..." >The support was great from those who accepted that (my wife, son, >parents, one brother, some very special friends.) I also saw that in >the quarters were that support was lacking that there also lay the >origin of my initial loss of original freedom or moksha... > >Dear Era... Does this make sense? > >(And thanks again to Michael, such a wonderful being of love!) > >Wim > > _______________ Get MSN Hotmail alerts on your mobile. http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=uuhp_hotmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Dear Era, Please do not hesitate to write to me off line if you feel that that would be helpful. , "Era" <mi_nok> wrote: > Dear Wim, > > I thank you from the bottom of my heart > for your wise incouraging words > > thank you.. I'll try hang in there > > love, Era You'll do better than just hanging in there, although at first it seems a long shot... Do you have someone in your immediate environment who you can unconditionally trust, so that you can let the chips fall where they may... if not we will find some other solution... Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 FALUN DAF AND FALUN GONG ARE THE SAME???? NEVERMIND I JUST HAVE AND HAD THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR YOU ITS MY FEELING JUST THAT WALK WALK WALK LOVE YOURSELF EACH MOMENT TO COME LOVE YOURSELF LET EVERYTHING GO YOU ARE WONDERFUL YOU ARE A PART OF GD YOU ARE N O T THE BODY N O T THE SUFFERING N O T THE THOUGHTS NOT THE MIND NOT THE EGO YOU ARE THE SELF michaek >"Era" <mi_nok > > > Re: for E R A >Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:08:41 -0000 > >"MICHAEL BINDEL" <michael_bindel@h...> wrote: > > Era > > > > regarding > > > > Falun Gong > > > > i defintely do not have a positive feeling since long > > of course i do not want to hurt you > > > > >Falun Dafa is great Michael, the > founder; Li Hongzhi as a thinker is > primitive imo, but the movements >are the finest Chi_Gong > > ><http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/dymf_2.htm> > >-the problem is in my left side > > e > > > _______________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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