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<wim_borsboom> wrote:

> > thank you.. I'll try hang in there

> >

> > love, Era

>

> You'll do better than just hanging in there, although at first it

> seems a long shot...

> Do you have someone in your immediate environment who you can

> unconditionally trust, so that you can let the chips fall where they

> may... if not we will find some other solution...

 

 

my god! it is so evident that I am

flatout now <grin>

 

there is a Buddhist monk who will

visit me..

 

all I can add, that there are times

when one can do nothing just endure

 

 

metta, Era

 

http://www.zoofence.com/amper.html

 

from U G Krishnamurti:

 

I have no particular message for

mankind, except to say that all holy

systems for obtaining enlightenment

are nonsense and that all talk of

arriving at a psychological mutation

through awareness is rubbish.

 

Psychological mutation is impossible

The natural state can happen only

through biological mutation.

 

****

Consciousness has to flush itself

out: it has to purge itself of every

trace of holiness and of every

trace of unholiness, of everything.

Even what you consider 'sacred'

and 'holy' is a contamination in

that consciousness. Yet it does not

happen through any volition of

yours.

 

When once the frontiers are broken --

although not through any effort

or volition of yours -- then the

floodgates are open and everything

goes out.

 

>

> Wim

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Dear Era,

 

The fact that you have pain with the unvoluntary movements means that

there is something in you that actually prevents the flow of healing

energy... When you say that you are "enduring" it could actually be

that there is in you some 'unconscious resisting' at work that hampers

the free flow of energy...

You most likely cannot help that, as the hold on you, which goes under

the guise of "you have to endure" is like a remote control from the

past that was put on you while you were under stress and is now

playing itself out to prevent you 'once again' from reclaiming your

original freedom...

 

I like your quote from UG Krishnamurti...

> When once the frontiers are broken --

> although not through any effort

> or volition of yours -- then the

> floodgates are open and everything

> goes out.

 

When "the chips fall where they may" the floodgates are open. Your

urge to somehow cope, a kind of 'strong-willedness' - which is very

often what endurance means - stops the "frontiers from breaking."

The "enduring" that you talk about may actually be a subconscious

maneuver of the will (volition) that prevents the "floodgates to open

so that everything goes out".

UGK is right, it has to do with volition, but sometimes it is the

volition "not to let go" that stops the healing...

 

If this makes sense, write me privately... I can fully explain where

the pain comes from and why it is on your left side...

 

Wim

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> > all I can add, that there are times

> > when one can do nothing just endure

> >

> >

> > metta, Era

> *************************

> Yes, sometimes, there is no choice but to endure.

>

> Drinking water and taking long walks is good advice.

>

> Diet is an important consideration.

>

> At night, eating heavy foods like avocados and almonds helps the sleep to be

> deeper.

>

> Self-affirmation is good.

>

> "I am the purest, the most worthy energy. I deserve the highest."

>

>

 

 

yes, Thank you Harsha Ji

 

big part is my guilt of not keeping

my wovs..of staying vegan etc..

 

positive affirmation is much better

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

 

Era

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, "Wim" <wim_borsboom> wrote:

> Dear Era,

>

> The fact that you have pain with the unvoluntary movements means that

> there is something in you that actually prevents the flow of healing

> energy... When you say that you are "enduring" it could actually be

> that there is in you some 'unconscious resisting' at work that hampers

> the free flow of energy...

> You most likely cannot help that, as the hold on you, which goes under

> the guise of "you have to endure" is like a remote control from the

> past that was put on you while you were under stress and is now

> playing itself out to prevent you 'once again' from reclaiming your

> original freedom...

>

 

 

 

so true !

 

it is all hidden from me

 

just 2 month ago I took 7 sessions of

Rolfing out of ten and when the practitioner asked me why I stopped

I said what if he opened up the

channels and I will not get any better

 

so I need more time..

 

I did not want to face that.. there

is fear in me without subject..

 

 

 

> I like your quote from UG Krishnamurti...

> > When once the frontiers are broken --

> > although not through any effort

> > or volition of yours -- then the

> > floodgates are open and everything

> > goes out.

>

> When "the chips fall where they may" the floodgates are open. Your

> urge to somehow cope, a kind of 'strong-willedness' - which is very

> often what endurance means - stops the "frontiers from breaking."

> The "enduring" that you talk about may actually be a subconscious

> maneuver of the will (volition) that prevents the "floodgates to open

> so that everything goes out".

> UGK is right, it has to do with volition, but sometimes it is the

> volition "not to let go" that stops the healing...

>

> If this makes sense, write me privately...

 

yes, thanks

> I can fully explain where

> the pain comes from and why it is on your left side...

>

> Wim

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