Energy surges-Kundalini-Prana.

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, Jill Eggers <eggersj@g...>

wrote:

> Hello Tony and all,

>

> Funny thing about mantra is it does, in fact, possess power

whether

> one is 'believing' in it or repeating with only the attention and

> cognition of a big parrot. The power of mantra and relation of

 

Namaste,

 

Ramana and others say that if one just repeats the mantra it is

ineffective; one has to be emotionally involved with it. The Vedic

sounds of a mantra have to be concentrated on, so rote is

impossible, if one is doing it properly. If I had a penny for each

time I heard the Gayatri chanted incorrectly, I would be a rich man.

The sound of OM/AUM of course is within manifestation and is not

Liberation itself. Sakti is not the energy per se but Saguna Brahman

that projects it.

 

I know to many, my opinions on Kundalini are somewhat different.

That is because IMO 99%+ of so called Kundalini-Prana isn't! One has

to identify if one is 'experiencing' the cleansing prana, for K of

course is everything as, the Universal Mind. So K-Prana is a

Spiritual event.

 

1.There are the movements of energy impulses at the biological

nerve level, and this may be due to any physical condition;

arthritis, pinched nerves, spine problems, psychosomatic etc etc.

 

2.There is the movement of prana in the nadis, that may not be

necessarily in the Sushumna. Acu-puncture type movements of energy

can take place and this may not be K-Prana. These may seem to be

spontaneous and out of control, and painful.

 

The five pranas or modes are quite complicated to the uninitiated.

Without going into them to deepy, they are involved in breathing,

and expulsion and sometime it seems they get out of sync. Badly

performed pranayama can cause this as well.

 

When a person is dying there is a feeling of a need to defecate, for

this is the prana starting to leave. A good example is my best

childhood friend died a few months ago, of a heart attack. He felt

an urge to defecate so he went upstairs to the toilet and took a

book with him. His wife found him some time later leaning against

the wall, book on his knee and dead as a doornail!--a heart attack!

 

Kundalini being the Universal Mind is everything and doesn't make

random mistakes IMO, in stimulating the cleansing of the kosas or

sheaths. The nadis and sushumna, (the tunnel of light), are after

all only concepts and constructs to describe the connectors of the

body to the kosas. A person not on the spiritual path is not going

to be subconsciously cleansing their vijnanamayakosa are they? There

has to be a trigger!!!

 

Finally as Sarada Devi says, Japa will raise the true Kundalini-

Prana, perhaps even emperceptibly. IMO opinion if one has a true K

experience happening it is more important to pay attention to their

behaviour not the experiences. If one isn't becoming more spiritual,

following a sadhana, becoming vegetarian for example, and in fact

becoming a Sadhaka, in some form.

 

Finally one has to take into account that Lakshmana Swami says the K

goes straight from the Heart to the Brain, and not from the

Muladhara. This indicates to me that pranas may or may not be of a

spiritual nature. i.e cleansing or otherwise.

 

The yardstick to me though is that a person become more the

spiritual, less attached to the world and its sensual activities and

pleasures. That is the difference between the pranas and kundalini-

prana..........ONS..Tony.