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Dear Antoine

 

merci beaucoup

thank you so much for your sharing with us this wealth!

 

in LOVE i AM

 

michael

 

>Antoine Carré <antoine.carre

> To:

><onsriyantra>,<> Subject:

> Where is the Heart? Mon, 4 Oct 2004

>19:52:26 -0400

>

>From Ramana Maharshi: http://www.chez.com/1564557/c_rgospel.htm

>

>D. Sri Bhagavan has specified a particular place for the Heart within the

>physical body, that it is in the chest, two digits to the right from the

>meridian.

>

>M. Yes, that is the Centre of spiritual experience according to the

>testimony of Sages. The spiritual Heart-centre is quite different from the

>blood- propelling, muscular organ known by the same name. The spiritual

>Heart-centre is not an organ of the body. All that you can say of the Heart

>is that it is the very Core of your being, that which you are really

>identical (as the word in Sanskrit literally means), whether you are awake,

>asleep or dreaming, whether you are engaged in work or immersed in Samadhi.

>

>D. In that case, how can it be localized in any part of the body? Fixing a

>place for the Heart would imply setting physiological limitations to That

>which is beyond space and time.

>

>M. That is right. But the person who puts the question about the position

>of the Heart, considers himself as existing with or in the body. While

>putting the question now, would you say that your body alone is here but

>that you are speaking from somewhere else? No, you accept your bodily

>existence. It is from this point of view that any reference to a physical

>body comes to be made.

>

>Truly speaking pure Consciousness is indivisible, it is without parts. It

>has no form and shape, no 'within' and 'without'. There is no 'right' or

>'left' for it. Pure Consciousness, which is the Heart, includes all; and

>nothing is outside or apart from it. That is the ultimate Truth.

>

>From this absolute standpoint, the Heart, Self or Consciousness can have no

>particular place assigned to it in the physical body. What is the reason?

>The body is itself a mere projection of the mind, and the mind is but a

>poor reflection of the radiant Heart. How can That in which everything is

>contained, be itself confined as a tiny part within the physical body which

>is but an infinitesimal, phenomenal manifestation of the one Reality?

>

>But people do not understand this. They cannot help thinking in terms of

>physical body and the world. For instance, you say "I have come to this

>Asramam all the way from my country beyond the Himalayas''. But that is not

>the truth. Where there is a 'coming' or 'going' or any movement whatever,

>for the one, all-pervading Spirit which you really are? You are where you

>have always been. It is your body that moved or was conveyed from place to

>place till it reached this Asramam.

>

>This is the simple truth, but to a person who considers himself a subject

>living in an objective world, it appears as something altogether visionary!

>

>It is by coming down to the level of the ordinary understanding that a

>place is assigned to the Heart in the physical body.

>

>D. How then shall I understand Sri Bhagavan's statement that the experience

>of the Heart-centre is at the particular place in the chest?

>

>M. Once you accept that from the true and absolute standpoint, the Heart as

>pure Consciousness is beyond space and time, it will be easy for you to

>understand the rest in its correct perspective.

>

>D. It is only on that basis that I have put the question about the position

>of the Heart. I am asking about Sri Bhagavan's experience.

>

>M. Pure Consciousness wholly unrelated to the physical body and

>transcending the mind is a matter of direct experience. Sages know their

>bodiless, eternal Existence just as the layman knows his bodily existence.

>But the experience of Consciousness can be with bodily awareness as well as

>without it. In the bodiless experience of Pure Consciousness the Sage is

>beyond time and space, and no question about the position of the Heart can

>then at all arise.

>

>Since, however, the physical body cannot subsist (with life) apart from

>Consciousness, bodily awareness has to be sustained by pure Consciousness.

>The former, by its nature, is limited and can never be co-extensive with

>the latter, which is infinite and eternal. Body-consciousness is merely a

>monad- like, miniature reflection of the pure Consciousness with which the

>Sage has realized his identity. For him, therefore, body consciousness is

>only a reflected ray, as it were, of the self-effulgent, infinite

>Consciousness which is himself. It is in this sense alone that the Sage is

>aware of his bodily existence.

>

>Since, during the bodiless experience of the Heart as pure Consciousness,

>the Sage is not at all aware of the body, that absolute experience is

>localized by him within the limits of the physical body by a sort of

>feeling-recollection made while he is with bodily awareness.

>

>Aham and Aham Vritti

>

>

>"All spiritual teachings are only meant to make us retrace our steps to our

>Original Source." From The Essential teachings of Ramana Maharshi, A visual

>Journey. http://www3.sympatico.ca/antoine.carre/maharshi.htm

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