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"Harsha" wrote:

> Dear Jill:

>

> It's good to have you sharing again with the sangha. I recall many

> discussions on Kundalini manifestations that took place in the early years.

>

> One thing that we notice is that manifestations, while they have certain

> common elements, are also unique to individuals.

>

> Mantra, pranayama, meditations, and most spiritual practices, work on either

> consciously or unconsciously awakening the Shakti.

>

> Initial physical manifestations included electric charges running through

> the spine or the body, being unable to move in meditation, being lifted up

> and thrown from your meditation position, involuntary movements or kriyas.

 

 

yes,

 

once I manifested the Vajrassana Mudra

 

after painful involuntary endurance

of the birth of the formation of this

kriya:

 

holding the underworld down with the

left hand and plugging into the

sky with the right one

 

and I'M THANKFUL FOR BEING ABLE TO DO SO

!

 

 

 

> In some people the kriyas take place in lucid dreams where a person finds

> himself or herself performing complex yoga positions they could not do in

> real life!

 

 

yes

 

> Psychological manifestations include fear, anxiety, feeling of doom, feeling

> of being out of control, not being able to see the end of the tunnel so to

> speak.

 

 

yes

 

> Kundalini is also the huge power of the unconscious and when it

> becomes active, many things buried start pressing on the small conscious

> mind which is not quickly able to assimilate the contents which are so dense

> and manifest symbolically.

>

> These are complex topics and probably the best thing is to be in a spiritual

> community where people can understand such things and be supportive.

>

> Adequate nourishment, water,

 

 

 

 

 

YES! GALLONS OF WATER

 

> and the will to see it through, even if takes

> years, is helpful.

>

> I know a wonderful person, a professor in Canada, who I believe was also

> practicing TM when he started experiencing with such things. He had a

> difficult time for some years and even sought out professional help from a

> psychologist who understood the Kundalini phenomena. things. Now after many

> many years, he is very successful and well adjusted. Everyone's path to

> integrating is different.

>

>

> In the Indian yogic traditions, the teacher or guru is the guide, and so the

> personal experience of the teacher can be helpful to the student to place

> things in proper context.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

 

thank you Harsha Ji, Era

 

 

 

> Hello Tony and all,

>

> Funny thing about mantra is it does, in fact, possess power whether

> one is 'believing' in it or repeating with only the attention and

> cognition of a big parrot. The power of mantra and relation of sound

> to matter remains such a mysterious experience to me.

>

> I had a 20 year daily practice of mantra meditation before the

> awakening of kundalini. After the kundalini became active, the mantra

> I had used in meditation began to repeat itself within me

> automatically, day and night, much of the time, for several years.

> Sometimes this would abate for a while. The mantras changed, too, over

> time. Sometimes a new seed mantra appears and repeats itself during

> part of each day, or during certain times, for a few months or more.

> Sometimes it is a longer, more complicated sanskrit mantra or song that

> appears. It's such a mystery. I suppose the mantra needed by the

> system shows up and does its work, then moves on. For about the first

> 4 years of kundalini, the mantra OM roared in the head hundreds of

> times a day. I remember when this started, being on an elevator at

> work, thinking, 'what the hell?', (or something gentler and more

> profound, to that effect ):), as I listened to this world of mantra

> roaring along with the complex actions of kriyas that went on each day.

> After a while, it became quieter and less frequent. but still remains

> a daily occurrence.

>

> After a while I figured out that the mantra OM was manifesting when

> there was a clearing or cleansing in the system of some sort, or an

> opening of spirit in or out of matter in some way--in me, or around me.

> That is, I noticed that OM manifests when something moves and clears

> within the body/mind, and that OM manifests at the birth or death of

> any creature. I take care of a lot of hurt birds, and once I heard the

> inner subtle OM sound when a robin I was holding died. Shortly after

> that, I noticed it with a crow that died. Despite many years of

> meditation practice, part of me had always thought the mantra was a

> symbol sound, and meaning sound, until my experience showed me that it

> has integrity and power regardless of the understanding of the hearer

> or repeater of the sound. What an amazing thing that was, to begin to

> understand the embedded world of mantra within the manifest world.

>

> Jill

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