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Tony,

 

You are applying a scientific approach, the basic causality equation

IF... THEN, to spirituality. It makes no sense...

 

<< _If_ people are becoming more spiritual, non violenct and

focused, _then_ I would be inclined to believe it is K. >>

 

Maybe, when you will stop judging using logic, will you stop

judging.

Who is judging, if not the mind?

 

Antoine

 

 

 

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

>

> , Antoine Carré

> <antoine.carre@s...> wrote:

> > -

> > Tony OClery

> >

> > << Much of the K-activity in the end may just be people

observing

> and

> > experiencing the pranamayakosa, Vivekananda remarks on

> > this.......ONS..Tony. >>

> >

> > May just be ..., you said Tony. What if it was not just people

> observing and experiencing the pranamayakosa?

> > Who are you to judge?

> >

> > Antoine

>

> Namaste,

>

> This is just opinion and I am not saying it applies to everyone.

The

> main opinion I am offering is that most so called K-Activity may

not

> be that at all.

>

> I suppose it depends whether one follows Patanjali Yoga or Tantra

> or Ramana. It is a view; one it tantric and one is advaitic.

> As with everything the 'proof of the pudding is in the eating'. If

> people are becoming more spiritual, non violenct and focused, then

I

> would be inclined to believe it is K. However if they still eat

> meat, are not into ahimsa, or a sexual indulgers etc with regard

to

> tantra, etc--------I would tend to believe it is not K-Prana but

one

> of the other five roles of Prana, or even physical nerves or

> psychosis..........So there is no judging except for judging the

> pudding..............ONS...Tony.

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Tony,

 

You said,

 

<< However whilst in it (illusion) we have to deal with the situation as it

appears.

The real meaning of a successful aroused K-Prana is the merging back into the K,

and then beyond to Nirguna.........ONS..Tony.>>

 

In other words, _if_ I am to understand your words correctly _then_ there is no

way I can say that someone else as merged back or not.

 

Which brings me back to my first question:

 

You said then:

<< Much of the K-activity in the end may just be people observing and

experiencing the pranamayakosa, Vivekananda remarks on this.......ONS..Tony. >>

 

I asked then:

<< May just be ..., you said Tony. What if it was _not_ just people observing

and experiencing the pranamayakosa?

Who are you to judge? >>

 

Namaste,

 

Antoine

 

-

Tony OClery

, "Antoine Carre"

<antoine.carre@s...> wrote:

>

> Tony,

>

> You are applying a scientific approach, the basic causality

equation

> IF... THEN, to spirituality. It makes no sense...

>

> << _If_ people are becoming more spiritual, non violenct and

> focused, _then_ I would be inclined to believe it is K. >>

>

> Maybe, when you will stop judging using logic, will you stop

> judging.

> Who is judging, if not the mind?

>

> Antoine

 

Namaste,

 

Yoga is a science and the universe is a mechanical illusion. Even

the subtle is mechanical and finer material. I believe in K-Prana,

but I don't believe most of the stories that's all...I believe it

is all illusion and never happened ultimately. However whilst in it

we have to deal with the situation as it appears.

The real meaning of a successful aroused K-Prana is the merging back

into the K, and then beyond to Nirguna.........ONS..Tony.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Antoine

 

like always your mails are delicious and to the point

 

 

namaste

 

 

 

michael

 

 

>"Tony OClery" <aoclery

>

>

> Re: Energy surges-Kundalini-Prana.

>/ >Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:50:39 -0000

>

>

>, "Antoine Carre"

><antoine.carre@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Tony,

> >

> > You are applying a scientific approach, the basic causality

>equation

> > IF... THEN, to spirituality. It makes no sense...

> >

> > << _If_ people are becoming more spiritual, non violenct and

> > focused, _then_ I would be inclined to believe it is K. >>

> >

> > Maybe, when you will stop judging using logic, will you stop

> > judging.

> > Who is judging, if not the mind?

> >

> > Antoine

>

>Namaste,

>

>Yoga is a science and the universe is a mechanical illusion. Even

>the subtle is mechanical and finer material. I believe in K-Prana,

>but I don't believe most of the stories that's all...I believe it

>is all illusion and never happened ultimately. However whilst in it

>we have to deal with the situation as it appears.

>The real meaning of a successful aroused K-Prana is the merging back

>into the K, and then beyond to Nirguna.........ONS..Tony.

>

>

>

 

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