Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 , christiane cameron <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > Dear Bobby, > > do not think that I don't understand, > the thing is that we are not at the job office. We are at Harsha > Satsang-Ramana Guru and it should be allowed here to talk about karma. > Ramana believed that everything is preordained and part of the law of > karma. At the same time he was the most compassionate man alive. I am > not saying people deserve their misfortune, I am just believing in the > law of cause and effect. I have a hard life myself and a soft heart. > > I just felt that there are many here ready to pounce on Tony so I am > taking a bit of the punch, because I value his postings. > > > > Christina Dear Christina: Yes I see that and I understand. I am glad I have had the opportunity to meet you. I also love Ramana. His presence is a gift. As is everyone's. If we search out hearts we find that out. I think we can forgive anything that anyone does and that is the only way to keep from blocking the love. Love Bobby G. > > > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 04:02, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > , christiane cameron > > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > > To all insulters of Tony, > > > > > > > > > Tony is a strict advaitin and talking in those terms only. Some > > people > > > seem to be thoroughly ignorant of advaita otherwise they would stop > > > insulting Tony. By the way, he did not use the word "deserve", you > > did. > > > He is just talking about the law of karma as laid down in Hindu > > > Shastras. It has nothing to do with morals. It is about cause and > > > effect only. > > > > > > Tony is a highly learned man and deserves respect. He just speaks > > the > > > truth. > > > > > > As far as K.Prana is concerned, it might be helpful to find out who > > it > > > is this (the surges ) is happening to. > > > > > > Christina from the shadows > > > > Dear Christina: > > > > You are deserving of a good answer. I don't have it. > > > > Last year a coach in England lost a good six figure job because he > > said that the crippled people got what they had coming. > > > > Crippled people read his comments and it is possible to believe they > > were hurt. How hard is it to not say these things? When the truth > > can hurt people instead of lead them out of darkness it is a weapon. > > Care must be used. > > > > There is no advaitin principle against this. > > > > Yours truly > > Bobby G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 01:48, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So all those people in the holocaust were getting what they had > > > > done > > > > > to others in previous lives. The billions of animals is a > > little > > > > > more difficult to explain. IMO It is a mixture of people born > > as > > > > > animals so they can suffer karma and the natural sequence of > > energy > > > > > consuming energy as in the world normally.........ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > > Hi Tony: > > > > > > > > You are stepping on some toes here. People who are not in the > > > > conversation and do not share your beliefs are being > > disenfranchised > > > > by your comments. > > > > > > > > In your system they would of course deserve this. > > > > > > > > Which means of course that you deserve to be confused as to why > > > > people are offended by what is the objective truth to you. > > > > > > > > Until you understand that there is not one view, yours, that > > > > describes accurately any event you will continue to be considered > > > > ignorant by intelligent and more tactful people unwilling to hurt > > > > innocents by their words under the guise of the truth. When the > > > > truth becomes a weapon it too should be laid down. > > > > > > > > When you learn this lesson clarity will be the karmic result. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > bobby G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > > > > <l.gif> > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > • > > > > / > > > > > > > > • To from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > > > • Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Monsoonhouse Int. > > > Kovalam/Kerala > > > contact: christianecameron@m... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > <81804_0704_b_300250a.gif> > > <l.gif> > > > > Links > > > > • > > / > > > > • > > > > > > • Terms of > > Service. > > > > > Monsoonhouse Int. > Kovalam/Kerala > contact: christianecameron@m... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Thanks, Joyce, For taking care of us, and sending us off to play (or work) happily. I hope your day is good, love, Jill On Oct 6, 2004, at 9:27 AM, Lady Joyce wrote: > > I have a very busy day today, but > I just wanted to say before I go off > to my day, to all of you... > Have a nice day!!! > > Really, and don't get lost in the rhetoric. > For the Truth is pure love, and anything else > is misguided egoism, bound by karmic chains :-) > You either "know" this or you don't. Talk means nothing, > if you have not known the power of the love coursing through > your entire being, taking over the body and dissolving the ego > into the ocean of Nirguna brahman. > > > Love and more love, > > Joyce > > PS Were we not talking about Kundalini? Whatever happened to > that discussion? I wonder "why" it got diverted, yet again ;-) > > > > > - > "Jill Eggers" <eggersj > <> > Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:54 AM > Re: Re: to ERA NO GOD > > > > Hello Christina, > > So much of what Tony has to say, in general, has validity and some > thoughtful truth in it. But the delivery is violent and without > compassion or sensitivity for others. Tony's history of violent > delivery on this list over the years has led to the readiness of others > to pounce. There is a bully in the sandbox and everyone recognizes > him. Tony's intelligence matched with a feeling heart would be a great > thing. > > Michael B, thank you for your thoughtful and generous post. I really > appreciated it. > > Love, > > Jill > > On Oct 5, 2004, at 7:48 PM, texasbg2000 wrote: > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 3:17 AM, christiane cameron wrote: > >> >> Dear Bobby, >> >> do not think that I don't understand, >> the thing is that we are not at the job office. We are at Harsha >> Satsang-Ramana Guru and it should be allowed here to talk about karma. >> Ramana believed that everything is preordained and part of the law of >> karma. At the same time he was the most compassionate man alive. I am >> not saying people deserve their misfortune, I am just believing in the >> law of cause and effect. I have a hard life myself and a soft heart. >> >> I just felt that there are many here ready to pounce on Tony so I am >> taking a bit of the punch, because I value his postings. >> >> >> >> Christina >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 6, 2004, at 04:02, texasbg2000 wrote: >> >>> >>> , christiane cameron >>> <christianecameron@m...> wrote: >>>> To all insulters of Tony, >>>> >>>> >>>> Tony is a strict advaitin and talking in those terms only. Some >>> people >>>> seem to be thoroughly ignorant of advaita otherwise they would stop >>>> insulting Tony. By the way, he did not use the word "deserve", you >>> did. >>>> He is just talking about the law of karma as laid down in Hindu >>>> Shastras. It has nothing to do with morals. It is about cause and >>>> effect only. >>>> >>>> Tony is a highly learned man and deserves respect. He just speaks >>> the >>>> truth. >>>> >>>> As far as K.Prana is concerned, it might be helpful to find out who >>> it >>>> is this (the surges ) is happening to. >>>> >>>> Christina from the shadows >>> >>> Dear Christina: >>> >>> You are deserving of a good answer. I don't have it. >>> >>> Last year a coach in England lost a good six figure job because he >>> said that the crippled people got what they had coming. >>> >>> Crippled people read his comments and it is possible to believe they >>> were hurt. How hard is it to not say these things? When the truth >>> can hurt people instead of lead them out of darkness it is a weapon. >>> Care must be used. >>> >>> There is no advaitin principle against this. >>> >>> Yours truly >>> Bobby G. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 6, 2004, at 01:48, texasbg2000 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So all those people in the holocaust were getting what they had >>>>> done >>>>>> to others in previous lives. The billions of animals is a >>> little >>>>>> more difficult to explain. IMO It is a mixture of people born >>> as >>>>>> animals so they can suffer karma and the natural sequence of >>> energy >>>>>> consuming energy as in the world normally.........ONS..Tony. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tony: >>>>> >>>>> You are stepping on some toes here. People who are not in the >>>>> conversation and do not share your beliefs are being >>> disenfranchised >>>>> by your comments. >>>>> >>>>> In your system they would of course deserve this. >>>>> >>>>> Which means of course that you deserve to be confused as to why >>>>> people are offended by what is the objective truth to you. >>>>> >>>>> Until you understand that there is not one view, yours, that >>>>> describes accurately any event you will continue to be considered >>>>> ignorant by intelligent and more tactful people unwilling to hurt >>>>> innocents by their words under the guise of the truth. When the >>>>> truth becomes a weapon it too should be laid down. >>>>> >>>>> When you learn this lesson clarity will be the karmic result. >>>>> >>>>> Love >>>>> bobby G. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /join >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Love itself is the actual form of God." >>>>> >>>>> Sri Ramana >>>>> >>>>> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sponsor >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <lrec_companion_043004.gif> >>>>> <l.gif> >>>>> >>>>> Links >>>>> >>>>> • >>>>> / >>>>> >>>>> • >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> • >>> Terms of >>>>> Service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Monsoonhouse Int. >>>> Kovalam/Kerala >>>> contact: christianecameron@m... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> /join >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Love itself is the actual form of God." >>> >>> Sri Ramana >>> >>> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sponsor >>> >>> >>> >>> <81804_0704_b_300250a.gif> >>> <l.gif> >>> >>> Links >>> >>> • >>> / >>> >>> • >>> >>> >>> • Terms of >>> Service. >>> >>> >> Monsoonhouse Int. >> Kovalam/Kerala >> contact: christianecameron >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> /join >> >> >> >> >> >> "Love itself is the actual form of God." >> >> Sri Ramana >> >> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma >> Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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