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, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:

> ...If I talked about the Tibetans, the Palestinians,

> the Chechens, the Irakis or any other modern oppressed

> group would it have had a reaction?...

 

Yes it would have, it just so happens that you have a peculiar

preocupation with mentioning the holocaust to drive your blunt(ed?)

and opiniated (as you admit everytime you type "IMO") viewpoint on

karma and reincarnation home.

 

Wim

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> , "Lady Joyce" <shaantih@c...>

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and writes again

 

Talk means nothing, Tony...

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> Nothing can dissolved into the ocean of Nirguna Brahman, for it has

> no attributes and therefore cannot be qualified. Love is an energy

> and therefore an attribute of Saguna.Also ultimately unreal.

> One can however be dissolved into the ocean projected by the Saguna

> Brahman or Sakti for that is what we are anyway, illusory or not. As

> Nisargadatta says we are all Praneaswara really.

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> To explain this to myself, I use the terminology of Jeshua who

> became the Christ. The way to the father is through me. IMO, this is

> Jeshua talking as the Son or Sakti. For realisation happens in two

> step which happen simultaneously.

> 1. We drop the ego and realise we are Praneaswara or the Sakti.

> 2. At the same time we 'realise' we are also Nirguna Brahman, and

> with the death of the body the entire creation including Love etc

> and Saguna Brahman never ever happened...........ONS..Tony.

 

Maybe not to you Tony.

It is your loss. Also, you

must realize that YOUR interpretations

of the meaning and import of karma are

indeed YOURS, so please don't be so quick

to align yourself with the great array of wisdom

which has gone before you. I do feel sympathy

for you and hope for you that someday you will

indeed know the love that you say never happened.

You may have been knocked from your meditation

pose but you surely have not come down off your

self made soapbox :-)

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Joyce

 

 

 

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