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, "Lady Joyce" <shaantih@c...>

wrote:

> > , "Lady Joyce"

<shaantih@c...>

> > wrote:

> and writes again

>

> Talk means nothing, Tony...

> >

> > Nothing can dissolved into the ocean of Nirguna Brahman, for it

has

> > no attributes and therefore cannot be qualified. Love is an

energy

> > and therefore an attribute of Saguna.Also ultimately unreal.

> > One can however be dissolved into the ocean projected by the

Saguna

> > Brahman or Sakti for that is what we are anyway, illusory or

not. As

> > Nisargadatta says we are all Praneaswara really.

> >

> > To explain this to myself, I use the terminology of Jeshua who

> > became the Christ. The way to the father is through me. IMO,

this is

> > Jeshua talking as the Son or Sakti. For realisation happens in

two

> > step which happen simultaneously.

> > 1. We drop the ego and realise we are Praneaswara or the Sakti.

> > 2. At the same time we 'realise' we are also Nirguna Brahman,

and

> > with the death of the body the entire creation including Love

etc

> > and Saguna Brahman never ever happened...........ONS..Tony.

>

> Maybe not to you Tony.

> It is your loss. Also, you

> must realize that YOUR interpretations

> of the meaning and import of karma are

> indeed YOURS, so please don't be so quick

> to align yourself with the great array of wisdom

> which has gone before you. I do feel sympathy

> for you and hope for you that someday you will

> indeed know the love that you say never happened.

> You may have been knocked from your meditation

> pose but you surely have not come down off your

> self made soapbox :-)

>

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

> Joyce

 

Namaste J,

 

I actually got that from Ramana's three theories of creationism. So

it is Ramana's view that creation never ever happened. So ultimately

there is no Saguna Sakti.........ONS..Tony..Check 'Be as you are'.

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