Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > Dear Bobby, > > do not think that I don't understand, > the thing is that we are not at the job office. We are at Harsha > Satsang-Ramana Guru and it should be allowed here to talk about karma. > Ramana believed that everything is preordained and part of the law of > karma. At the same time he was the most compassionate man alive. I am > not saying people deserve their misfortune, I am just believing in the > law of cause and effect. I have a hard life myself and a soft heart. > > I just felt that there are many here ready to pounce on Tony so I am > taking a bit of the punch, because I value his postings. > > > > Christina > > the way some Sri Ramana followers interpret karma scares me! -there is a supra-causal-effect realm from where the individum is missing: all is in non-duality not to mention, that Bhagvan Ramana took out time from his understanding of "karma"; as time also is NON existent on the higher planes of understanding Era ps: I also don't believe in linear reincarnation, or karma as a bumerang *supra causal is above causal > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 04:02, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > > To all insulters of Tony, > > > > > > > > > Tony is a strict advaitin and talking in those terms only. Some > > people > > > seem to be thoroughly ignorant of advaita otherwise they would stop > > > insulting Tony. By the way, he did not use the word "deserve", you > > did. > > > He is just talking about the law of karma as laid down in Hindu > > > Shastras. It has nothing to do with morals. It is about cause and > > > effect only. > > > > > > Tony is a highly learned man and deserves respect. He just speaks > > the > > > truth. > > > > > > As far as K.Prana is concerned, it might be helpful to find out who > > it > > > is this (the surges ) is happening to. > > > > > > Christina from the shadows > > > > Dear Christina: > > > > You are deserving of a good answer. I don't have it. > > > > Last year a coach in England lost a good six figure job because he > > said that the crippled people got what they had coming. > > > > Crippled people read his comments and it is possible to believe they > > were hurt. How hard is it to not say these things? When the truth > > can hurt people instead of lead them out of darkness it is a weapon. > > Care must be used. > > > > There is no advaitin principle against this. > > > > Yours truly > > Bobby G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 01:48, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So all those people in the holocaust were getting what they had > > > > done > > > > > to others in previous lives. The billions of animals is a > > little > > > > > more difficult to explain. IMO It is a mixture of people born > > as > > > > > animals so they can suffer karma and the natural sequence of > > energy > > > > > consuming energy as in the world normally.........ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > > Hi Tony: > > > > > > > > You are stepping on some toes here. People who are not in the > > > > conversation and do not share your beliefs are being > > disenfranchised > > > > by your comments. > > > > > > > > In your system they would of course deserve this. > > > > > > > > Which means of course that you deserve to be confused as to why > > > > people are offended by what is the objective truth to you. > > > > > > > > Until you understand that there is not one view, yours, that > > > > describes accurately any event you will continue to be considered > > > > ignorant by intelligent and more tactful people unwilling to hurt > > > > innocents by their words under the guise of the truth. When the > > > > truth becomes a weapon it too should be laid down. > > > > > > > > When you learn this lesson clarity will be the karmic result. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 I don't see where this follower of Sree Ramana interprets anything. chris On Oct 8, 2004, at 00:33, Era wrote: > > , christiane cameron > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > Dear Bobby, > > > > do not think that I don't understand, > > the thing is that we are not at the job office. We are at Harsha > > Satsang-Ramana Guru and it should be allowed here to talk about > karma. > > Ramana believed that everything is preordained and part of the law > of > > karma. At the same time he was the most compassionate man alive. I > am > > not saying people deserve their misfortune, I am just believing in > the > > law of cause and effect. I have a hard life myself and a soft > heart. > > > > I just felt that there are many here ready to pounce on Tony so I > am > > taking a bit of the punch, because I value his postings. > > > > > > > > Christina > > > > > > > MY GOD!!!!!! > > the way some of Sri Ramana followers > interpret karma is SCARY! > > -there is a supra-causal-effect realm > from where the individum is missing: > all is in non-duality > > not to mention, that Bhagvan Ramana > took out time from his understanding of > "karma"; as time also is NON existent > on the higher planes of understanding > > > Era > > ps: I also don't believe in linear 'karma' > > *supra causal is above causal > > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 04:02, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > > > To all insulters of Tony, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony is a strict advaitin and talking in those terms only. Some > > > people > > > > seem to be thoroughly ignorant of advaita otherwise they would > stop > > > > insulting Tony. By the way, he did not use the word "deserve", > you > > > did. > > > > He is just talking about the law of karma as laid down in Hindu > > > > Shastras. It has nothing to do with morals. It is about cause > and > > > > effect only. > > > > > > > > Tony is a highly learned man and deserves respect. He just > speaks > > > the > > > > truth. > > > > > > > > As far as K.Prana is concerned, it might be helpful to find > out who > > > it > > > > is this (the surges ) is happening to. > > > > > > > > Christina from the shadows > > > > > > Dear Christina: > > > > > > You are deserving of a good answer. I don't have it. > > > > > > Last year a coach in England lost a good six figure job because > he > > > said that the crippled people got what they had coming. > > > > > > Crippled people read his comments and it is possible to believe > they > > > were hurt. How hard is it to not say these things? When the > truth > > > can hurt people instead of lead them out of darkness it is a > weapon. > > > Care must be used. > > > > > > There is no advaitin principle against this. > > > > > > Yours truly > > > Bobby G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 01:48, texasbg2000 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So all those people in the holocaust were getting what > they had > > > > > done > > > > > > to others in previous lives. The billions of animals is a > > > little > > > > > > more difficult to explain. IMO It is a mixture of people > born > > > as > > > > > > animals so they can suffer karma and the natural sequence > of > > > energy > > > > > > consuming energy as in the world > normally.........ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tony: > > > > > > > > > > You are stepping on some toes here. People who are not in > the > > > > > conversation and do not share your beliefs are being > > > disenfranchised > > > > > by your comments. > > > > > > > > > > In your system they would of course deserve this. > > > > > > > > > > Which means of course that you deserve to be confused as to > why > > > > > people are offended by what is the objective truth to you. > > > > > > > > > > Until you understand that there is not one view, yours, that > > > > > describes accurately any event you will continue to be > considered > > > > > ignorant by intelligent and more tactful people unwilling > to hurt > > > > > innocents by their words under the guise of the truth. > When the > > > > > truth becomes a weapon it too should be laid down. > > > > > > > > > > When you learn this lesson clarity will be the karmic > result. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > bobby G. > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > Sponsor > > > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > <l.gif> > > Links > > • > / > > • > > > • Terms of > Service. > > Monsoonhouse Int. Kovalam/Kerala contact: christianecameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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