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Christina from the shadows

 

 

Dear sister on the way back home

 

 

 

accepting my similar traits to you and Tony and people likewise Grace healed

me

 

 

sister

 

 

come out of the shadow and enter the LIGHT

 

 

how wonderful calming this I S

 

 

not clinging anymore to old suffering engraved into the mind and opposing

JOY

 

let it GO

 

let go all the desire to please those who engraved the suffering by not

accepting themselves

 

 

let go the subconscious desire to be "strong"

 

because strength you like i myself will find only thru complete

surrendering to

 

 

L O V E

 

 

unconditional love

 

no concepts no thoughts

 

"just"

 

uncondtional surrender to GD

 

 

be embraced in

 

L O V E

 

 

hugs hugs hugs

 

 

 

michael

 

the eternal fool

 

 

 

 

 

>"Era" <mi_nok

>

>

> Re: to ERA NO GOD

>Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:33:03 -0000

>

>

>, christiane cameron

><christianecameron@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Bobby,

> >

> > do not think that I don't understand,

> > the thing is that we are not at the job office. We are at Harsha

> > Satsang-Ramana Guru and it should be allowed here to talk about karma.

> > Ramana believed that everything is preordained and part of the law of

> > karma. At the same time he was the most compassionate man alive. I am

> > not saying people deserve their misfortune, I am just believing in the

> > law of cause and effect. I have a hard life myself and a soft heart.

> >

> > I just felt that there are many here ready to pounce on Tony so I am

> > taking a bit of the punch, because I value his postings.

> >

> >

> >

> > Christina

> >

> >

>

>

> MY GOD!!!!!!

>

>the way some of Sri Ramana followers

> interpret karma is SCARY!

>

>-there is a supra-causal-effect realm

> from where the individum is missing:

> all is in non-duality

>

>not to mention, that Bhagvan Ramana

>took out time from his understanding of

> "karma"; as time also is NON existent

> on the higher planes of understanding

>

>

> Era

>

>ps: I also don't believe in linear 'karma'

>

>*supra causal is above causal

>

>

> >

> >

> > On Oct 6, 2004, at 04:02, texasbg2000 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > <christianecameron@m...> wrote:

> > > > To all insulters of Tony,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tony is a strict advaitin and talking in those terms only. Some

> > > people

> > > > seem to be thoroughly ignorant of advaita otherwise they would stop

> > > > insulting Tony. By the way, he did not use the word "deserve", you

> > > did.

> > > > He is just talking about the law of karma as laid down in Hindu

> > > > Shastras. It has nothing to do with morals. It is about cause and

> > > > effect only.

> > > >

> > > > Tony is a highly learned man and deserves respect. He just speaks

> > > the

> > > > truth.

> > > >

> > > > As far as K.Prana is concerned, it might be helpful to find out who

> > > it

> > > > is this (the surges ) is happening to.

> > > >

> > > > Christina from the shadows

> > >

> > > Dear Christina:

> > >

> > > You are deserving of a good answer.  I don't have it. 

> > >

> > > Last year a coach in England lost a good six figure job because he

> > > said that the crippled people got what they had coming.

> > >

> > > Crippled people read his comments and it is possible to believe they

> > > were hurt.  How hard is it to not say these things?  When the truth

> > > can hurt people instead of lead them out of darkness it is a weapon. 

> > > Care must be used.

> > >

> > > There is no advaitin principle against this.

> > >

> > > Yours truly

> > > Bobby G.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Oct 6, 2004, at 01:48, texasbg2000 wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  > So all those people in the holocaust were getting what they

>had

> > > > >  done

> > > > >  > to others in previous lives. The billions of animals is a

> > > little

> > > > >  > more difficult to explain. IMO It is a mixture of people born

> > > as

> > > > >  > animals so they can suffer karma and the natural sequence of

> > > energy

> > > > >  > consuming energy as in the world normally.........ONS..Tony.

> > > > >

> > > > >  Hi Tony:

> > > > >

> > > > >  You are stepping on some toes here.  People who are not in the

> > > > >  conversation and do not share your beliefs are being

> > > disenfranchised

> > > > >  by your comments.

> > > > >

> > > > >  In your system they would of course deserve this. 

> > > > >

> > > > >  Which means of course that you deserve to be confused as to why

> > > > >  people are offended by what is the objective truth to you. 

> > > > >

> > > > >  Until you understand that there is not one view, yours, that

> > > > >  describes accurately any event you will continue to be

>considered

> > > > >  ignorant by intelligent and more tactful people unwilling to

>hurt

> > > > >  innocents by their words under the guise of the truth.  When the

> > > > >  truth becomes a weapon it too should be laid down.

> > > > >

> > > > >  When you learn this lesson clarity will be the karmic result.

> > > > >

> > > > >  Love

> > > > >  bobby G.

> > > > >

>

>

>

>

 

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