Tony & Nirguna vs Saguna

[Guest guest]

So only Nirguna exists Saguna and anything else only exist in the

mind of the non realised person.........ONS...Tony.

 

 

Dearest Tony,

 

Funny little "must brattle onward and endlessly & ignorantly, in that

phooey Saguna-Foolery bug in my ear, uninformed as I appear to be, it

tells a tale about Tony always droning (don't miss the tongue in

cheek… it feels mighty fine, Nirguna-less, maybe, but filled with Love

for no reason at all for you, Tony getting' baloney bound…)

 

My Nirguna tastes the best, passes the test, dente delish and it's ala

Allah alright-e-O. I have heard you say this, granted, in a

Multi-Grandly, and only as You, Tonyji, Tony-freaking for urgent

action, do so Beautifully, yet let's get into honesty… in the assault

with this "weapon," (for Tony, you seem to use this particular passage

as your hall pass to act like a spiritual `ass'in nines...

 

....and it is most mouth-brutally, and without bearing kindly or

compassionately, (imo) with others whom are struggling with the core

story, administered daily and often, and more often than not,

painfully. (Would it be possible that you play a role in this

remission-sesshin of setting others' "straight?")

 

Nirguna-Schmirguna, it's a word, Tony, a word with great and

liberating meaning… but you appear to make it a cursed cane above our

heads, heads of semi-dread that you'll tangentize and arise riled and

destroy in one fell swoop, (imagined though, so say hello to Saguna,)

and all Saguna saps and all their, and my, God-talk, gingersnaps and,

Maybe I'm Crazy, milk, milched from my own sacred cows dying, and the

sacred cow power that's sucked from Rilke and Sri Ramana, they are a

Cow that Kills all ideas fixated upon… even the grandest, like the

Nirguna tunetry of the telling of tales.

 

Giving things a temporare-extraordinaire non-attitudinal "let is rest

within my Heart/Self/Guru/This," does really reveal, can entirely

reveal their/my/this D'Oh Tao gnowing-glowing, always knowing that

they/we/you/I, cannot know what Knows, and there is always-always a

most Incredible, Terrific Beauty in realizing this, and, the one who

takes in, or stands among their/your/my, own, drone buzzetry mimicry

of the ManMoonSwarupaSuchness, sits and also stands still, and the

still-pointed concentration of the man/woman/child/creature, grows wan

in wants, pales in the impalation of "I wanna be a Moon, wanna usurp

the pointing, pointers, the Point Itself, and it appears among your,

Tony's, most Beautiful Nirgunatic-splatic ruins, a Kharabatic temple

of ruins where we still can, always and still, even still, laugh and

live wholly a-lone, (even while with others) meditating, being The

Meditation, The Inquiry, without the expected and never let's me

down-ness, of your announcing that we are, or we are seeking a better

image in the telling of it in a self-announced by Vous, Saguna

sopwith, and I do not mean camel, either.

 

I surmise that you talk about Nirguna like it was the last call for

drinks…. The last BART train out, the last past snafu-glue being

glueless…. So, here I am, clueless and Nirgunaless in knowledge or

experience, as I fathom…. canna not be Nirgunaless, eh...And still,

Tony Dear, your passion for this passage, it does bring about the most

Delicious Laughter. For Love. Because. Be cool, Dear Tool, Dear Teller

of the Well Water's Wetness. It all "gets it," all.

 

 

 

Love,

 

Mazie

[Guest guest]

, "mazie_l" <sraddha54@h...>

wrote:

>

> So only Nirguna exists Saguna and anything else only exist in the

> mind of the non realised person.........ONS...Tony.

>

>

> Dearest Tony,

>

> Funny little "must brattle onward and endlessly & ignorantly, in

that

> phooey Saguna-Foolery bug in my ear, uninformed as I appear to be,

it

> tells a tale about Tony always droning (don't miss the tongue in

> cheek… it feels mighty fine, Nirguna-less, maybe, but filled with

Love

> for no reason at all for you, Tony getting' baloney bound…)

 

Namaste,

>From the site preamble;'This list is dedicated to Sri Ramana and the

pure teachings of the Self as taught in Advaita Vedanta and supports

all the preliminary practices of yoga and meditation in the context

of teachings of Ahimsa, the philosophy of nonviolence."

So far it must be my writing that is bad for I am only quoting or

paraphrasing Ramana;

 

Q 'Now for instance I put this fan that is in my hand down on the

floor here. Can it be that it was already decided that on such and

such a day, at such and such an hour, I should move the fan like

this and put it down here?

 

A. Ramana; Certainly. Whatever this body is to do and whatever

experience it is to pass through was already decided when it came

into existance.

 

 

Q. What becomes then of man's freedom and responsibility for his

actions?

 

A.Ramana: The only freedom man has is to strive and acquire the

jnana which will enable him not to identify himself with the

body.The body will go through the actions rendered inevitable by

prarabdah.

 

So this doesn't conflict with what I have been saying at all. Ajata

is the ultimate truth. Just as primary is true for a child, high

school is true for a teenager, and university for an adult, and post

graduate for the ultimate educational institute. None are wrong at

their level but only the ultimate is the Truth.

There is no body, no creation and no Saguna. Even in creation Iswara

is the total some of all the jivas, like a forest is total some of

trees.

Nirguna is inexplicable, for describing limits...........ONS..Tony.