Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 --- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul > Brunton and Munagala > > Venkataramiah > > > __________ > > > > On Daily Life > > snip > > > > Q: Why is the world in ignorance? > > > > M: Let the world take care of itself. If you are > the body, then there the > > gross world appears. If you are the spirit, > everything is just spirit. > > Look for the ego, and it vanishes. If you > inquire, ignorance will be found > > to be non-existent. It is the mind which feels > misery and darkness. See > > the Self. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > OM TAT SAT michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Alan, I have heard Nome say to a questioner that they should inquire about "What is daily life?" (and who am I?) (and see the many misidentifications that this idea of "daily life" contains. And to know they are all just thoughts. For whom are these thoughts? Who knows these thoughts? Who am I?) So certainly "daily life" is a great place for inquiry. Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > > Venkataramiah > > __________ > > > > On Daily Life > > > > Q: What kind of teaching is suitable for young people - they would not > > understand the naked truth? > > > > M: Their attention might be drawn to the truth from time to time in an > > appropriate way. > > > > Q: Why is the world in ignorance? > > > > M: Let the world take care of itself. If you are the body, then there the > > gross world appears. If you are the spirit, everything is just spirit. > > Look for the ego, and it vanishes. If you inquire, ignorance will be found > > to be non-existent. It is the mind which feels misery and darkness. See > > the Self. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 --Dear Richard , Thanks for your reply .It is good to exchange once again .I am in full agreement with you. There is no place or time when Self Enquiry is not beneficial or innappropriate . Every best wish , yours in His Grace , Alan Clarke <rclarke wrote: > Dear Alan, > > I have heard Nome say to a questioner that they should inquire > about "What is daily life?" (and who am I?) (and see the many > misidentifications that this idea of "daily life" contains. And to > know they are all just thoughts. For whom are these thoughts? Who > knows these thoughts? Who am I?) > > So certainly "daily life" is a great place for inquiry. > > Not two, > Richard > > RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs > <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and > Munagala > > > Venkataramiah > > > __________ > > > > > > On Daily Life > > > > > > Q: What kind of teaching is suitable for young people - they > would not > > > understand the naked truth? > > > > > > M: Their attention might be drawn to the truth from time to time > in an > > > appropriate way. > > > > > > Q: Why is the world in ignorance? > > > > > > M: Let the world take care of itself. If you are the body, then > there the > > > gross world appears. If you are the spirit, everything is just > spirit. > > > Look for the ego, and it vanishes. If you inquire, ignorance > will be found > > > to be non-existent. It is the mind which feels misery and > darkness. See > > > the Self. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ALL-NEW > Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > Links > > > > > > ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 i want to know what does it mean by "wandered away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another?> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Difficulties on the path> > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair> M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that> seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant?> It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions> to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness,> living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on> the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be> free from anxieties.> > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee?> > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never> denied to anyone.> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala> Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 ---daer shyam kumar, \ Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and Rishis,as there were found amenable and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more information on this .Regards, Alan <shyam_drkmc wrote: > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:i want to know what does it mean by "wandered > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Difficulties on the path > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant? > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness, > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be > > free from anxieties. > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never > > denied to anyone. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > > > > > _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new > features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > RamanaMaharshi/ > > > RamanaMaharshi > > > > > > > > > ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Dear Shyam and Alan: My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just an overnight stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like "giving up one's possessions", leave alone wandering in forests/cemeteries etc. I was happily spending the money in my possession to donate for Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), buying books/bus tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on 21st (Saturday) sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off on his own way leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had brought from Chennai for the trip had almost run out. The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my wife back in Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus fare to go back to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by that 'helpless feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or reach back Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in TV Malai. I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy who threw away the few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped him contact back his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in TVMalai some 108 years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had just lost his dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he would get the next meal especially considering that he was hungry and tired throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of where/how he would stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework that boy would have been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that moment. I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first hand, to which this ego of self-identification has tied me. It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any time I can give up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown place', but it is altogether another thing to actually 'do it'. I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan removes all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my possessions' and wandering... love to all...Murthy RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > ---daer shyam kumar, > \ > > Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and Rishis,as there were found amenable > and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more information on this .Regards, > Alan > > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want to know what does it mean by "wandered > > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Difficulties on the path > > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair > > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that > > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant? > > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions > > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness, > > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on > > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be > > > free from anxieties. > > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never > > > denied to anyone. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Dear Mr. Murthy, Lot of questions answered in your simple narration of your trip to Thiruvannamalai. Thanks Sriram --- manof678 <manof678 wrote: > Dear Shyam and Alan: > > My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just > an overnight > stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like > "giving up one's > possessions", leave alone wandering in > forests/cemeteries etc. > > I was happily spending the money in my possession to > donate for > Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), > buying books/bus > tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on > 21st (Saturday) > sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off > on his own way > leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had > brought from > Chennai for the trip had almost run out. > > The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my > wife back in > Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus > fare to go back > to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by > that 'helpless > feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or > reach back > Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in > TV Malai. > > I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy > who threw away the > few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped > him contact back > his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in > TVMalai some 108 > years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had > just lost his > dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he > would get the > next meal especially considering that he was hungry > and tired > throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of > where/how he would > stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework > that boy would have > been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that > moment. > > I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first > hand, to which > this ego of self-identification has tied me. > > It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any > time I can give > up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown > place', but it is > altogether another thing to actually 'do it'. > > I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to > prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan > removes > all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my > possessions' > and wandering... > > love to all...Murthy > > RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs > <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > ---daer shyam kumar, > > \ > > > > Tradditionally these were favourite places for > Saivites and > Rishis,as there were found amenable > > and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other > member has more > information on this .Regards, > > Alan > > > > > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want > to know what > does it mean by "wandered > > > away in forests,cementeries,and the > wilderness...".is it > preferring onething to another? > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Difficulties on the path > > > > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in > his rocking chair > > > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! > If someone else > takes that > > > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is > rocking really > so pleasant? > > > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! > Siva gave all > his possessions > > > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, > cemeteries and the > wilderness, > > > > living off food he had begged. In his view, > non-possession is > higher on > > > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The > higher happiness > is to be > > > > free from anxieties. > > > > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual > food is common > to all and never > > > > denied to anyone. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul > Brunton and > Munagala > > > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Dear Murthi, Thank you for that inspiring posting .I agree that we must all prepare to be inward Sanyasins, relying on grace, and not on the anxiety for material things which drives much activity.I was so glad to have met you at Tiru and to know the presence of a group member .It means much more than just a name and an E mail address . With every best wish and warm regards, in His Grace, Alan --- manof678 <manof678 wrote: Dear Shyam and Alan: My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just an overnight stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like "giving up one's possessions", leave alone wandering in forests/cemeteries etc. I was happily spending the money in my possession to donate for Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), buying books/bus tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on 21st (Saturday) sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off on his own way leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had brought from Chennai for the trip had almost run out. The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my wife back in Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus fare to go back to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by that 'helpless feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or reach back Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in TV Malai. I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy who threw away the few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped him contact back his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in TVMalai some 108 years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had just lost his dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he would get the next meal especially considering that he was hungry and tired throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of where/how he would stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework that boy would have been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that moment. I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first hand, to which this ego of self-identification has tied me. It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any time I can give up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown place', but it is altogether another thing to actually 'do it'. I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan removes all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my possessions' and wandering... love to all...Murthy RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > ---daer shyam kumar, > \ > > Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and Rishis,as there were found amenable > and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more information on this .Regards, > Alan > > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want to know what does it mean by "wandered > > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Difficulties on the path > > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair > > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that > > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant? > > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions > > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness, > > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on > > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be > > > free from anxieties. > > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee? > > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never > > > denied to anyone. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Sponsor RamanaMaharshi/ RamanaMaharshi ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Thank you very much for sharing your beautiful experience. When one, deep within loses the attachment for material possessions, I guess it is the most beautiful feeling of freedom. Ever In Sri Bhagavan, Prashanthmanof678 <manof678 > wrote: Dear Shyam and Alan:My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just an overnight stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like "giving up one's possessions", leave alone wandering in forests/cemeteries etc.I was happily spending the money in my possession to donate for Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), buying books/bus tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on 21st (Saturday) sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off on his own way leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had brought from Chennai for the trip had almost run out. The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my wife back in Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus fare to go back to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by that 'helpless feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or reach back Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in TV Malai.I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy who threw away the few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped him contact back his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in TVMalai some 108 years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had just lost his dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he would get the next meal especially considering that he was hungry and tired throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of where/how he would stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework that boy would have been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that moment. I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first hand, to which this ego of self-identification has tied me.It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any time I can give up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown place', but it is altogether another thing to actually 'do it'.I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan removes all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my possessions' and wandering...love to all...MurthyRamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:> ---daer shyam kumar,> \> > Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and Rishis,as there were found amenable> and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more information on this .Regards, > Alan> > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want to know what does it mean by "wandered> > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another?> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > Difficulties on the path> > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair> > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that> > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant?> > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions> > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness,> > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on> > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be> > > free from anxieties.> > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee?> > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never> > > denied to anyone.> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala> > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam,> > Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 When King Janaka's kingdom Mithila, caught fire, some sadhus ran to their huts to pick up their possessions which was their loin cloth. King Janaka remained quiet and closed his eyes was totally concentrated on listening to the sacred teachings, took no note of the panic. I guess with all his possessions King Janaka was not the possessor. In Sri Bhagavan, Prashanthanof678 <manof678 > wrote: Dear Shyam and Alan:My trip TV Malai on Friday, August 20, 2004 for just an overnight stay gave me a 'feel' of what it is/would be like "giving up one's possessions", leave alone wandering in forests/cemeteries etc.I was happily spending the money in my possession to donate for Chandru Mama's Annual Veda Parayanam (chanting), buying books/bus tkts. etc., paying for the lodging/food etc. and on 21st (Saturday) sometime in the afternoon, after my friend went off on his own way leaving me alone, I realized that the funds I had brought from Chennai for the trip had almost run out. The shock came when I wanted to make a call to my wife back in Chennai and found that I had just enough for the bus fare to go back to Chennai. For a minute, the mind was jolted by that 'helpless feeling' as to how I would contact the folks in or reach back Chennai if I have no money and with no relatives in TV Malai.I was immediately reminded of the 16 year old boy who threw away the few annas (coins) he had (which would have helped him contact back his family in Madurai/Dindigul) into a tank in TVMalai some 108 years back. No thoughts of mother for a boy who had just lost his dad, no thoughts of brothers, no thoughts of how he would get the next meal especially considering that he was hungry and tired throughout the trip to TV Malai, no thoughts of where/how he would stay, none at all. What kind of mental framework that boy would have been at that time! I was moved beyond measure that moment. I got a 'feel' of the 'worldy attachments', first hand, to which this ego of self-identification has tied me.It is one thing to say or even feel that 'ah, at any time I can give up all I have and wander in a strange or unknown place', but it is altogether another thing to actually 'do it'.I resolved then that my main saadhanaa should be to prepare "internally" for such a day when bhagavaan removes all 'apparent' external impediments to giving up 'my possessions' and wandering...love to all...MurthyRamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:> ---daer shyam kumar,> \> > Tradditionally these were favourite places for Saivites and Rishis,as there were found amenable> and auspicious for meditation .Maybe some other member has more information on this .Regards, > Alan> > > <shyam_drkmc> wrote: > > > > > > Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:i want to know what does it mean by "wandered> > away in forests,cementeries,and the wilderness...".is it preferring onething to another?> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > Difficulties on the path> > > > > > Once the Maharshi noticed Mr. G. sitting in his rocking chair> > > M: What a cause for anxiety in such luxuries! If someone else takes that> > > seat the owner will not be happy about it. Is rocking really so pleasant?> > > It is simply a wasteful thought of pleasure! Siva gave all his possessions> > > to Vishnu and wandered away in forests, cemeteries and the wilderness,> > > living off food he had begged. In his view, non-possession is higher on> > > the scale of happiness than possessions. The higher happiness is to be> > > free from anxieties.> > > > > > Q: Am I worthy to be a devotee?> > > > > > M: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual food is common to all and never> > > denied to anyone.> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala> > > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam,> > Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue"> font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Thank you for this – it was a perfect reminder this morning font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Joy Alan Jacobs [alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk] 21 September 2004 23:04 ramana maharshi Cc: satsangdiarygroup (AT) (DOT) co.uk [RamanaMaharshi] From Conscious immortality 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">ward it to an interested or caring friend: > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Work > > As the Maharshi was going down the hill, some sweepers were at their work. > One of them stopped and was about to prostrate before him. The Maharshi > spoke to them. > > M: To engage in your duty is the true namaskar (homage; or prostration > before God or Guru). To perform one's duty carefully is the greatest > service to God. > > Q: How to reconcile work with meditation? > > M: Who is the worker? Let him who works ask the question. You are always > the Self, not the mind. It is the mind which raises these questions. Work > always goes along in the presence of the Self. Work is no hindrance to > realization. It is the mistaken identity as the worker that is the > trouble. Get rid of the false identity. Activities go on automatically > every day. Know that the mind prompting them is but a phantom proceeding > from the Self. Why do you think that you are active? The activities are > not your own; they are God's. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > Venkataramiah. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Thanks for that Alan, great passage. Can I ask if anyone has managed to achieve a meditative state while engaged in busy activiity ? It sounds like the ideal way to live. thank you Eric RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Work > > > > Q: They say that effort will lead to blankness of mind and work will not be > > possible. > > > > M: Go first to that blankness and then tell me. > > > > Q: How can my mind be still if I have to use it more than other people? I > > want to go into solitude and renounce my work as a headmaster. > > > > M: No. You can stay where you are and go on with work. What is the > > undercurrent which gives life to the mind and enables it to do all this > > work? It's the Self. So, that is the real source of your activity. > > Simply become aware of it during your work and do not forget it. > > Contemplate it in the background of your mind even while you are working. > > To do that, do NOT hurry! Take your time, keep the remembrance of your > > real nature alive, even while working, and avoid haste which causes you to > > forget. Be deliberate. Practice meditation to still the mind and cause it > > to become aware of its true relationship to the Self, which supports it. > > Do not imagine it is you who are doing the work. Think that it is the > > underlying current that is doing it. Identify yourself with this current. > > If you work unhurriedly, recollectedly, your work or service need not be a > > hindrance. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > > Venkataramiah. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Suffering > > Brunton: We are men living in the world and have one kind of grief or another. > We pray for help and are still not satisfied. What should we do? > > Maharshi: Trust God. If you surrender, you must be able to abide by His will and > not grieve when things do not go as you would wish. They may turn out > differently from how they appear. Distress often leads people to have > faith in God. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala > Venkataramiah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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