Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Christina, If I am to understand what you are saying : << For the advanced sadhaka the difference between daily and spiritual life does not arise. >> What do you mean by an advanced sadhaka? Antoine _________ Dear Friends, what do you mean exactly by eternal state? For all I know the quote could be Maharshi's answer to some of the kitchen workers, who felt that they were losing out spiritually by working while others were sitting in the hall meditating with Bhagawan. He then explained to them that Atma Vichara can be carried out at all times at all places. "Just let the body do the work", he said. For the advanced sadhaka the difference between daily and spiritual life does not arise. Namah Shivaya Christina On Oct 12, 2004, at 22:47, Antoine Carré wrote: > > > Thanks Harsha, > > Yes, It cannot be said any better > > Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. > > So long as daily life is imagined to be different from > > the spiritual life these difficulties arise. > > If the spiritual life is rightly understood the active > > life will be found to be not different from it. > > March 21, 1937 ~Ramana Talks > > So there is no need to change one iota to active or every day life... > > Wim > > This brings up a question, > If someone is not happy (Meaning he or she does not find the Eternal > state in it) in all aspect of his or her life. Does he or she changes > that aspect or, instead, tries to find the Eternal state in the aspect > of life where it Is not found? > > I ask this because I could easily choose a work (i.e. to be a tai chi > instructor) where it would be more easy for me to not fell divorced > from the Eternal state from time to time. Yet I also like my work > (i.e. fixing people crying because they broke Sony things) for when I > am able to find again a spark of the eternal state doing it, I know > that I am able to find it in all aspect that life as still to offer > me. > > Antoine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hi Antoine You asked > May I ask what made you forget the Eternal State.... Being led to believe while under stress (from a Catholic culture urge to sacrifice) and after having been manipulated, that there was something the matter with my life and me which was also blamed to be the cause of my being manupulated... that I had brought it on myself... Wim , Antoine Carré <antoine.carre@s...> wrote: > << Good for you Antoine! > You know Antoine, I have for 14 years worked in a variety of factory > settings, for 11 years taught computer classes in various settings, > for 5 years been active in Montessori schools, for 3 years > landscaping... and then some... It was not the work that at times made > me forget the Eternal state... >> > > Hello Wim, > > May I ask what made you forget the Eternal State.... > > Antoine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I am talking about someone who has been practicing for some years on a daily basis. On Oct 13, 2004, at 01:20, Harsha wrote: > What does everyone here mean by the word “mean”? :-). > > > > Harsha > > _____ > > Antoine Carré [antoine.carre] > Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:07 PM > > Re: Re: Everyday Life and the > Eternal State > > > > Dear Christina, > > If I am to understand what you are saying : << For the advanced > sadhaka the > difference between daily and spiritual life does not arise. >> > > What do you mean by an advanced sadhaka? > > Antoine > > _________ > > Dear Friends, > > what do you mean exactly by eternal state? > > For all I know the quote could be Maharshi's answer to some of the > kitchen workers, who felt that they were losing out spiritually by > working while others were sitting in the hall meditating with > Bhagawan. > He then explained to them that Atma Vichara can be carried out at all > times at all places. "Just let the body do the work", he said. For the > advanced sadhaka the difference between daily and spiritual life does > not arise. > > Namah Shivaya > > Christina > > > On Oct 12, 2004, at 22:47, Antoine Carré wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Harsha, > > > > Yes, It cannot be said any better > > > Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. > > > So long as daily life is imagined to be different from > > > the spiritual life these difficulties arise. > > > If the spiritual life is rightly understood the active > > > life will be found to be not different from it. > > > March 21, 1937 ~Ramana Talks > > > > So there is no need to change one iota to active or every day > life... > > > > Wim > > > > This brings up a question, > > If someone is not happy (Meaning he or she does not find the > Eternal > > state in it) in all aspect of his or her life. Does he or she > changes > > that aspect or, instead, tries to find the Eternal state in the > aspect > > of life where it Is not found? > > > > I ask this because I could easily choose a work (i.e. to be a tai > chi > > instructor) where it would be more easy for me to not fell divorced > > from the Eternal state from time to time. Yet I also like my work > > (i.e. fixing people crying because they broke Sony things) for when > I > > am able to find again a spark of the eternal state doing it, I know > > that I am able to find it in all aspect that life as still to offer > > me. > > > > Antoine > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=1292g4239/ > M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=gr > > oups/S=1705060955:HM/EXP=1097705297/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*http: > /promo > tions./ydomains2004/index.html> click here > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/ > D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2376776/rand=953873191> > > > > _____ > > Links > > * > / > > * > > > <? > subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > Sponsor > > > <f2_free2_300x250_def_0904.gif> > <l.gif> > > Links > > • > / > > • > > > • Terms of > Service. > > Monsoonhouse Int. Kovalam/Kerala contact: christianecameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 What do you mean, what do we mean with the word mean??? sam - Harsha Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:20 AM RE: Re: Everyday Life and the Eternal State What does everyone here mean by the word "mean"? :-). Harsha _____ Antoine Carré [antoine.carre] Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:07 PM Re: Re: Everyday Life and the Eternal State Dear Christina, If I am to understand what you are saying : << For the advanced sadhaka the difference between daily and spiritual life does not arise. >> What do you mean by an advanced sadhaka? Antoine _________ Dear Friends, what do you mean exactly by eternal state? For all I know the quote could be Maharshi's answer to some of the kitchen workers, who felt that they were losing out spiritually by working while others were sitting in the hall meditating with Bhagawan. He then explained to them that Atma Vichara can be carried out at all times at all places. "Just let the body do the work", he said. For the advanced sadhaka the difference between daily and spiritual life does not arise. Namah Shivaya Christina On Oct 12, 2004, at 22:47, Antoine Carré wrote: > > > Thanks Harsha, > > Yes, It cannot be said any better > > Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. > > So long as daily life is imagined to be different from > > the spiritual life these difficulties arise. > > If the spiritual life is rightly understood the active > > life will be found to be not different from it. > > March 21, 1937 ~Ramana Talks > > So there is no need to change one iota to active or every day life... > > Wim > > This brings up a question, > If someone is not happy (Meaning he or she does not find the Eternal > state in it) in all aspect of his or her life. Does he or she changes > that aspect or, instead, tries to find the Eternal state in the aspect > of life where it Is not found? > > I ask this because I could easily choose a work (i.e. to be a tai chi > instructor) where it would be more easy for me to not fell divorced > from the Eternal state from time to time. Yet I also like my work > (i.e. fixing people crying because they broke Sony things) for when I > am able to find again a spark of the eternal state doing it, I know > that I am able to find it in all aspect that life as still to offer > me. > > Antoine > /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor <http://us.ard./SIG=1292g4239/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705060955:HM/EXP=1097705297/A=2376776/R=0/SIG=11ldm1jvc/*http:/promo tions./ydomains2004/index.html> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2376776/rand=953873191> _____ Links * / * <?subject=Un> * <> Terms of Service. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Thank you Wim for taking the time to answer, Antoine Hi Antoine You asked > May I ask what made you forget the Eternal State.... Being led to believe while under stress (from a Catholic culture urge to sacrifice) and after having been manipulated, that there was something the matter with my life and me which was also blamed to be the cause of my being manupulated... that I had brought it on myself... Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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