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Antoine Carré <antoine.carre@s...> wrote:

> Namaste T, :)

>

> There is no error when we renounce to the fruits-of-all-actions (*).

>

> The underlined meaning of your email was clear anyway. Why did I take the time

to underline that the quote was not from who you though it was. I don`t know. It

is not important to me.

>

> I must say that I must guess or look for a long time on the internet the

meaning of words like 'Nishkarma Karma karma'. I know English does not have

equivalent words to translate Hindi based on Sanskrit.

 

nishkarma = absence of doer-ship

 

 

 

Arjuna speaks

 

How come you, hey Keshava (Krishna)

Want me to follow the karma yoga

When in your thinking (as is

comprehended by me)

 

Gyan yoga is the superior path

 

My judgment is getting clouded

When I hear you speak of these mixed

words

So, tell me that one path

Which can lead me to that higher plane 

 

Shri Bhagavan speaks

 

Once upon a time in the past

I have told these two paths of devotion

 

One the path of gyan yoga for the

meditative

The other the path of karma yoga for

the rest

 

 

No person gets to the state of non-working (nishkarma)

 

Simply by non performing of karma

 

Neither does any one get to the centering (siddhi)

 

By merely giving up (tyag) of any karma

 

 

whole verse III:

 

<http://www.gita-society.com/newadditions/poetry.htm>

 

Era

 

 

 

Would you have by any chance, equivalent words in English (or French:-) that

would point to the Hindi words you use? It would help me in understanding your

manifestation is trying to tell me or tell others...

>

> You said before, a while ago, that I appear to be a tantrika. And I did not

answer directly. I will answer here. My primary interest in studying, living,

all those religions, philosophies, ways of thinking, alchimies is to find the

best way to communicate with others. The truth is the same for all. To often we

come to believe we are talking of different truths simply because we did not

learn to communicate who we are.

>

> Antoine

>

> (*) 11. If you are unable to do even this (this is here: making the non

manifested the goal of all action), then taking refuge in Me, self-controlled,

renounce the fruits-of-all-actions.

> Bhagavhad Gita. Chant XII - paragraph 11.

>

 

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