Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 > Nothing Existed Except the Eyes of the Maharshi | 1, 2, 3 > <http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc109a.htm> metta, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 > Nothing Existed Except the Eyes of the Maharshi | 1, 2, 3 > <http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc109a.htm> metta, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Flug" <yosyflug@i...> wrote: > Re:Eyes of the Maharshi/shakti > experience > > > > > > Nothing Existed Except the Eyes of the Maharshi | 1, 2, 3 > > > > <http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc109a.htm> > > > metta, Era > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > when i saw for the first time photo of beloved ramana, not knowing > who/what it is, i was instantly captivated by his humor sparkling, wise > and compassionate eyes.. only much later i enquired as to the sage's > identity etc. but even now those wonderful eyes are present there, > somewhere in the back of my mind - always... > > jai ramana! > > yosy I dreamed about my master way before I met him... .... I wonder; is there shaktipath possible looking at a photo of a saint? Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 , "Era" <mi_nok> wrote: > ... I wonder; is there shaktipath > possible looking at a photo of a saint? Dear Era, when you look at a saint's eyes, a photograph's or real, it is you that is seeing yourself... I also mean: it is YOU yourself that is seeing... Let us not forget the deeper meaning of "It takes one to see one." The guru/saint is only there to remind you not to extrapolate your love and divinity outside of yourself and see it as separated from you. He or she is only there to help you to stop believing that you are short of it or falling short in it. Looking at a saint's picture helps you to erase the mentally engraved pictures of those at the moment they attempted to make you feel inadequate. The silence in a saint's eyes helps you also to silence your mind from the mentally engraved language of those who attempted to separate you so unfairly from your innate love and joyful contentment. Luckily the crime of disenfranchisement is never perfect. So indeed, the disenfranchisement of one's innate Shakti gets reversed... that IS shaktipat. Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Borsboom" <wim_borsboom> wrote: Dear Wim, > > ... I wonder; is there shaktipath > > possible looking at a photo of a saint? > > Dear Era, when you look at a saint's eyes, a photograph's or real, it > is you that is seeing yourself... this is new for me; I am studying advaita... so it makes sense > I also mean: it is YOU yourself that is seeing... > Let us not forget the deeper meaning of "It takes one to see one." > The guru/saint is only there to remind you not to extrapolate your > love and divinity outside of yourself and see it as separated from > you. it was explained to me in a bhakti sense, but I like your meaning more > He or she is only there to help you to stop believing that you > are short of it or falling short in it. > Looking at a saint's picture helps you to erase the mentally engraved > pictures of those at the moment they attempted to make you feel > inadequate. yes: the darshans had a 'cleaning' effect on me > The silence in a saint's eyes helps you also to silence your mind from > the mentally engraved language of those who attempted to separate you > so unfairly from your innate love and joyful contentment. > > Luckily the crime of disenfranchisement is never perfect. > I get hurt very easy > So indeed, the disenfranchisement of one's innate Shakti gets > reversed... do you mean going downward? interestingly, my master always told me when I complained about the pressure of the force surging upward; that "it all has to down dear" > that IS shaktipat. > > Love, Wim thank you Wim, I visited your page and spent wonderful time there love, Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 , "Era" <mi_nok> wrote: > > Borsboom" <wim_borsboom> wrote: > > Dear Wim, > > > > > ... I wonder; is there shaktipath > > > possible looking at a photo of a saint? > > > > Dear Era, when you look at a saint's eyes, a photograph's or real, it > > is you that is seeing yourself... > > > this is new for me; I am studying > advaita... so it makes sense When people say "it makes sense", they are defintely on their way. Ramana used to say that as well. > > > > I also mean: it is YOU yourself that is seeing... > > Let us not forget the deeper meaning of "It takes one to see one." > > The guru/saint is only there to remind you not to extrapolate your > > love and divinity outside of yourself and see it as separated from > > you. > > > it was explained to me in a bhakti > sense, but I like your meaning more Like Harsha suggested a few posts ago, when it comes down to it there is no difference in the effectiveness of the various kinds of yoga. Most of us, over time, pass through the various forms and when one reads the Bhagavat Gita it outlines all of them to be useful and available to any and all of us. It is all one jewel (Mani) and each yoga is like a facet on that jewel, each leading one into the jewel so that we eventually see the the full glory of the lotus (Padma) of life, truth and love (satchitananda). > > He or she is only there to help you to stop believing that you > > are short of it or falling short in it. > > Looking at a saint's picture helps you to erase the mentally engraved > > pictures of those at the moment they attempted to make you feel > > inadequate. > > > yes: the darshans had a 'cleaning' > effect on me > > > > The silence in a saint's eyes helps you also to silence your mind from > > the mentally engraved language of those who attempted to separate you > > so unfairly from your innate love and joyful contentment. > > > > Luckily the crime of disenfranchisement is never perfect. > > > > > I get hurt very easy Most of us do, Era, but many of us are able to hide it... and the way we hide it actually shows HOW we are hurting. > > So indeed, the disenfranchisement of one's innate Shakti gets > > reversed... > > do you mean going downward? Oops, no I meant the "disenfranchisement" gets reversed into "enfranchisement" or to say it simpler: into the reclamation of freedom or Moksha. > interestingly, my master always told > me when I complained about the > pressure of the force surging upward; > that "it all has to down dear" Do not worry, Era, as long as it "goes" it goes alright, trust the Shakti... What we humans, even some elevated ones, seem to know is all based on partial concepts... trust overcomes that Trust in love... > > that IS shaktipat. > > > > Love, Wim > > thank you Wim, I visited your page > and spent wonderful time there You probably noticed that I needed a lot of trust, and that it worked out, no matter which way the Shakti went... > love, Era Love, Wim Only Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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