Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Namaste,IMHO, Ramana says the only freewill we have is to realise the Jnana and everything is predetermined. The Higher Self has no form and it is we who give it a form, any form, any name. Nir-guna cannot act at all through anything, that is a contradiction in terms. 'Ramana' cannot manifest himself in any form to the devotee as he that body/mind doesn't exist. It has gone back to the elements. It is the devotee's subconscious that does the manifesting. Sure Ramana was the Self but the body Ramana was just carrying out its predetermined prarabda karma unitil it dropped. During this time it went through the appearance of Bhakti, actions etc. Bhakti is much misunderstood. To many it is the devotion and the emotion they call Bhakti, but it is more than that. Being devoted to the path of Jnana without any forms at all is still devotion. For it is the search for the Self, which is the aim of all yogas. Most Yogas are about concentration and one pointedness, suitable to the sahdhaka. All actions are predetermined by prarabda karma, there is no 'God' organising our lives, the energy is provided that's all. We have only the choice in attitude that is all, not in the result. To a follower of Bhakti Marga this may sound dry and unspiritual, but to an Advaitin on the Jnana Marga, it is the essence of Sadhana-- --lifting the veil. Religion for example is possibly a crutch, but to a one-legged man a crutch is most useful. I suppose when we realise we are just part of a dream, it ends.......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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