further clarification regarding my and tonies behaviour

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Dear Harsha

 

i forgot to inform you about the following fact

 

tony is - as he declared once - a socalled antizionist. What means that he

does not accept the fact, that their is a jewish people and a jewish

religion and people of jewish orgin, who are persecuted in all countries

more or less all the time more or less regarding degree of persecution.

Antizionism means not allowing people like your michael to feel that we have

the right to our own piece of land.

I do not deny the right for example of northern irish people to have their

own state.

But i am very sensible if people nowadays and again start to spread their

beliefsystem that human being of jewish origin - whatever this means - have

no right to have their own state and their own socalled independence.

Like every tribe should have - for example the wonderful tribes of india,

from their rich wisdom i learn so much. Or any other group of human beings.

Tony denies this to me, to our members of jewish origin and jews all over

the world.

And he even sends you material supporting his view. Every intelligent and

interested human being can found dozens of sites etc to support everything.

As a stupid example: yesterday the british navy allowed a satanist sailor

to practice his "religion" they allowed this beliefsystem.

Of course i am very sensible - who would not having lost hundreds of family

members lll

And a person declaring himself spiritual who spreadfs beliefsystems contrary

to the live right of others........

and please nobody should use esoteric arguments when matters of not allowing

somebody else just to live......are declared.....

it would be like somebody would come and state the indian people have no

right to live like indians in india

unbelievable

 

of course dear unknow friend Harsha all our existence is a dream

how else could i have survived spiritually without coming to this conclusion

without a Guru without a book without friends

just by my oiwn

 

thru Grace "i" found Ramana

 

vsn you imagine my naivity or idiotacy not to have expected meeting this

antihuman beliefsystem again in an ADVAITA GROUP in an group where AHIMSA

sorry if i wrote it wrong is or should be at least a common denominator...

and so i met it

 

and i let it go

 

hoping all of us excepting fullheartedely everyones right to live as he

wants to live

 

 

in deep respect and modesty

 

yours

 

 

michael

 

 

and i feel that tony did finally the right think to start his own group

 

may he bless himself

 

and may all of us be blessed in love harmony and peace

but please only a real one......

 

 

:----))))))))

 

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, "viorica weissman"

<viorica_weissman> wrote:

>

> hi Michael,

> Tony and you are very much alike, like twins, what a good pair of

> friends you two make: each of you hold such strong identifications

> with one's own religion and nation; and incidently you were born

in

> different religions not the same, that's the only difference.

> Identification with a nation or religion is a great impediment,

and

> on a spiritual path like of self-enquiry these identifications

get

> dissolved.

 

Namaste V,

 

I have no identification with any religion, although raised an Irish

Catholic, I really left many many years ago,as a teenager, and went

into Native Religion, then Taoism. I then went into the Kabbalah,

the real not the new trendy ersatz hollywood celebrity version. I

ended up with a copy of the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita, from

the Adyar Bookshop in Sydney, Australia, and my association with

Vedanta began there.

 

I still have a great interest in Yeshua and the Gnostic Gospels etc

but I am not considering myself a Christian, I have no religion!!!

Yeshua to me is like the Buddha or Ramana etc. I have the same

attitude to Religion as Ramana and Maharaj, in their ultimate

instruction. I also have entitlement to about five different

passports, legally, so I don't have any real identification with any

nationality these days at all. Although I will admit to some genetic

and cultural tendencies that have survived

hahahaahah.........ONS..Tony