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OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SRI RAMANAYA

 

 

Dear friends in Harsha

dear Viorica

 

 

that Tony and i have many similar traits is so obvious to me - it was from

the first moment so clear.....

 

i am happy to have found Ramana s wisdom, happy that Grace led me find a

final confirmation what i found out myself.

This is definetely the last part of my journey back home.

And because of this all habits fears conditionings have to go.... all

 

 

and this hurts terrible especially in a time where history repeats itself in

the most terrible way

 

but to see this - and most of the people nowadays do not see this clear

enoug - and not being able to do something against it hurts too

 

It was Vioricas decision to leave her homeland and to stay in Israel.

Its her karma or her sadhana and i admire her loving work

 

Its my karma to have experienced all what i experienced and to draw the

necessary conclusions.

 

And all conclusions i am able to discover are to be found in the wisdom of

Advaita, in the loving way SATGURU Ramana transmitted.

 

So i take the advice of all those who really know me thoroughly, like my

wife, our 14 year old wonderful boy Gavriel and of Wim Sam and so many of

this group and of course Viorica - all unknow known only virtually - to live

in the moment, what means from instant to instant, without thought of the

past and future.

 

And i hope for your understanding a n d assistance to object to any

form of negation of the right to live of anybody, i repeat anybody.

 

in GD i trust

 

thank you for reading my lines

 

 

michael

 

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"viorica weissman" <viorica_weissman

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Monday, October 25, 2004 6:07 AM

Re: further clarification regarding

my and tonies behaviour

 

>

> hi Michael,

> Tony and you are very much alike, like twins, what a good pair of

> friends you two make: each of you hold such strong identifications

> with one's own religion and nation; and incidently you were born in

> different religions not the same, that's the only difference.

> Identification with a nation or religion is a great impediment, and

> on a spiritual path like of self-enquiry these identifications get

> dissolved. They are only another form of identification with the

> body, if one calls oneself a devotee of Ramana Maharshi then surely

> such a one understood at least intellectually that one is not the body

> or that one is the body and everything else or...

> If one would take more time to meditate on Ramana's teachings then

> surely such topics would have never arised.

>

> And Michael, Tony takes you no rights, if we talk about Israel, I

> live here in Israel as you know and you are free to come and live

> here and share the karma with us too whenever you wish. Your choice

> is different though. Tony has no power to take or give you any such

> right.

>

> I wonder when Harsha will stop all this.

> Good luck, Harsha.

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Thank you dear Viorica. What you say comes through loud and clear. Tony is

already on moderation and Michael will go next if this continues. I think

there are better suited lists for the type of dialogue Tony and Michael wish

to have.

 

The purpose of this list is not served by what is going on and by rehashing

old stuff.

 

Tony has been on moderation and it is not fair to carry on with someone who

is on moderation and unable to reply without approval. So Michael, if you

want to talk to Tony or talk about Tony, I suggest you join his list or

write him privately and work this out. The other option is to not talk to

each other or talk about each other. Just like a friendly divorce without

kids.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SRI RAMANAYA

 

 

Dear Harsha

 

of course i agree

 

i did not want to discuss with Tony about this

 

old stuff new stuff mind stuff ego stuff

 

be embraced with a deep smile

 

 

sorry for the disturbances and waves..........

 

 

michael

 

 

>"Harsha"

>

><>

>Re: Re: further clarification

>regarding my and tonies behaviour

>Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:40:00 -0400

>

>-

>"viorica weissman" <viorica_weissman

><>

>Monday, October 25, 2004 6:07 AM

> Re: further clarification regarding

>my and tonies behaviour

>

>

> >

> > hi Michael,

> > Tony and you are very much alike, like twins, what a good pair of

> > friends you two make: each of you hold such strong identifications

> > with one's own religion and nation; and incidently you were born in

> > different religions not the same, that's the only difference.

> > Identification with a nation or religion is a great impediment, and

> > on a spiritual path like of self-enquiry these identifications get

> > dissolved. They are only another form of identification with the

> > body, if one calls oneself a devotee of Ramana Maharshi then surely

> > such a one understood at least intellectually that one is not the body

> > or that one is the body and everything else or...

> > If one would take more time to meditate on Ramana's teachings then

> > surely such topics would have never arised.

> >

> > And Michael, Tony takes you no rights, if we talk about Israel, I

> > live here in Israel as you know and you are free to come and live

> > here and share the karma with us too whenever you wish. Your choice

> > is different though. Tony has no power to take or give you any such

> > right.

> >

> > I wonder when Harsha will stop all this.

> > Good luck, Harsha.

>**************************************

>Thank you dear Viorica. What you say comes through loud and clear. Tony is

>already on moderation and Michael will go next if this continues. I think

>there are better suited lists for the type of dialogue Tony and Michael

>wish

>to have.

>

>The purpose of this list is not served by what is going on and by rehashing

>old stuff.

>

>Tony has been on moderation and it is not fair to carry on with someone who

>is on moderation and unable to reply without approval. So Michael, if you

>want to talk to Tony or talk about Tony, I suggest you join his list or

>write him privately and work this out. The other option is to not talk to

>each other or talk about each other. Just like a friendly divorce without

>kids.

>

>Love to all

>Harsha

>

 

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