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Dear Gabriele:

 

The question about what happens to a yogi who has not completed the journey

is addressed clearly by Sri Krishna.

 

See Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 6, verses 37-45.

 

Sri Ramana also used to say that there is hope for everyone. Once he said

that even scholars and those who are infatuated with words and concepts will

eventually get on with it as well.

 

As you know Bhagavan was always advocated the direct path but was keen on

finding out what a person's interest and background was and essentially

supported whatever spiritual practice they were engaged in and was natural

to them. The stories of devotees like Kunju Swami and others who saw him and

lived with him are the most revealing.

 

The beauty of Sri Ramana's generous grace is overwhelming.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

-

"gabriele ebert" <g.ebert

<RamanaMaharshi>

Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:24 AM

Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Lucy Ma about the Guru-pitfall

 

 

Dear Harsha,

 

 

 

What does the Bhagavan Gita say about?

 

Quite correct that "never" in this context takes away

all possibilities of a change. This may not be according to Bhagavan, you

are right.

He always left open a chance for each one, never giving up any hope. That's

wonderful with Bhagavan!!

Yet the general thing Lucy Ma points out is only too true.

 

yours in Sri Bhagavan

Gabriele

 

 

 

 

****************************************

Dear Gabriele:

 

The sentiments expressed in the last two paragraphs by the author are

flatly

contradicted by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita in response to the

question

by Arjuna where Arjuna wonders what happens to the Yogi who does not

succeed

and falls from the path.

 

Also, as far as I know Sri Ramana never used the word "never" in the

context

of someone failing permanently on the path. In fact, just the opposite,

Bhagavan said something like .... one who has glimpsed the Self and tasted

the joy of his own nature will not rest and will be attracted to it and

continue to move in that direction until the realization is permanent.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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, "Harsha" wrote:

> Dear Gabriele:

>

> The question about what happens to a yogi who has not completed the

journey

> is addressed clearly by Sri Krishna.

>

> See Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 6, verses 37-45.

>

> Sri Ramana also used to say that there is hope for everyone. Once

he said

> that even scholars and those who are infatuated with words and

concepts will

> eventually get on with it as well.

>

> As you know Bhagavan was always advocated the direct path but was

keen on

> finding out what a person's interest and background was and

essentially

> supported whatever spiritual practice they were engaged in and was

natural

> to them. The stories of devotees like Kunju Swami and others who

saw him and

> lived with him are the most revealing.

>

> The beauty of Sri Ramana's generous grace is overwhelming.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

>

> -

> "gabriele ebert" <g.ebert@g...>

> <RamanaMaharshi>

> Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:24 AM

> Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Lucy Ma about the Guru-pitfall

>

>

> Dear Harsha,

>

>

>

> What does the Bhagavan Gita say about?

>

> Quite correct that "never" in this context takes away

> all possibilities of a change. This may not be according to

Bhagavan, you

> are right.

> He always left open a chance for each one, never giving up any

hope. That's

> wonderful with Bhagavan!!

> Yet the general thing Lucy Ma points out is only too true.

>

> yours in Sri Bhagavan

> Gabriele

>

>

>

>

> ****************************************

> Dear Gabriele:

>

> The sentiments expressed in the last two paragraphs by the author

are

> flatly

> contradicted by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita in response to

the

> question

> by Arjuna where Arjuna wonders what happens to the Yogi who does

not

> succeed

> and falls from the path.

>

> Also, as far as I know Sri Ramana never used the word "never" in

the

> context

> of someone failing permanently on the path. In fact, just the

opposite,

> Bhagavan said something like .... one who has glimpsed the Self

and tasted

> the joy of his own nature will not rest and will be attracted to

it and

> continue to move in that direction until the realization is

permanent.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

:) brings to mind a sufi poem, attributed to jallaludin rumi (quoted

from memory - anyone has the source?):

 

"come, come, whoever you are

a muslim, a magian, a jew or an infidel.

come, even if you've broken your vows

a thousand times, come.

ours is not

a caravan of dispair!"

 

yosy

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