Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Without the cause of my own somnambulence within the eyes of never-ending peace falling falling into emptiness where are the wings that want to fly letting go so love can enter union of eternal abide is this a dream or is it reality where is the ground where Being hides love unrestrained without completion whose is the face where true love lies heart opened before me glimmering reflections a lakes surface burned through to an inner surprise awaiting with Alice within a mirrored morning to join children who gain a hallowed prize joined in a Christening innocence dewfaced mirrored reflections of true loves eyes love to you, dream girl Michael --- Lady Joyce <shaantih wrote: > > Major Chadwick's Dream Incident > Sadhu Arunachala (Major Alan Chadwick): > > "We are such stuff As dreams are made of and our > short life Is rounded by a sleep." > > Shakespeare really did know what he was talking > about and it was not just poetic effervescence. > Maharshi used to say exactly the same. > > I suppose I questioned Bhagavan more often on this > subject than any others, though some doubts always > remained for me. He had always warned that as soon > as one doubt is cleared another will spring up in > its place, and there is no end to doubts. > > "But Bhagavan," I would repeat, "dreams are > disconnected, while the waking experience goes on > from where it left off and is admitted by all to be > more or less continuous." > > "Do you say this in your dreams?", Bhagavan would > ask. "They seemed perfectly consistent and real to > you then. It is only now, in your waking state that > you question the reality of the experience. This is > not logical." > > Bhagavan refused to see the least difference between > the two states, and in this he agreed with all the > great Advaitic Seers. Some have questioned if > Shankara did not draw a line of difference between > these two states, but Bhagavan has persistently > denied it. "Shankara did it apparently only for the > purpose of clearer exposition," the Maharshi would > explain. > > However I tried to twist my questions, the answer I > received was always the same: "Put your doubts when > in the dream state itself. You do not question the > waking state when you are awake, you accept it. You > accept it in the same way you accept your dreams. Go > beyond both states and all three states including > deep sleep. Study them from that point of view. You > now study one limitation from the point of view of > another limitation. Could anything be more absurd? > Go beyond all limitation, then come here with your > doubts." > > But in spite of this, doubt still remained. I > somehow felt at the time of dreaming there was > something unreal in it, not always of course, but > just glimpses now and then. > > "Doesn't that ever happen to you in your waking > state too?" Bhagavan queried. "Don't you sometimes > feel that the world you live in and the thing that > is happening is unreal?" Still, in spite of all > this, doubt persisted. > > But one morning I went to Bhagavan and, much to his > amusement, handed him a paper on which the following > was written: > > "Bhagavan remembers that I expressed some doubts > about the resemblance between dreams and waking > experience. Early in the morning most of these > doubts were cleared by the following dream, which > seemed particularly objective and real: > > Indent "I was arguing philosophy with someone and > pointed out that all experience was only subjective, > that there was nothing outside the mind. The other > person demurred, pointing out how solid everything > was and how real experience seemed, and it could not > be just personal imagination. > > "I replied, 'No, it is nothing but a dream. Dream > and waking experience are exactly the same.' > > "'You say that now,' he replied, 'but you would > never say a thing like that in your dream.' > > "And then I woke up." > > From the Call Divine, March 1954 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > --------------------~--> > $9.95 domain names from . Register anything. > http://us.click./J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/bpSolB/TM > --~-> > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > > > > Check out the new Front Page. www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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