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, "Al Larus" <erilarend>

wrote:

> Here we have a saying 'to take the leaf from the mouth'

>

> I must confess one of the persons mentioned did annoy me many years

ago when

> somebody in the good book shop in town used three out of four

shelves

> reserved for the very best literature for his books : ).

>

> Has it not always been like this, some clever people will give

themselves a

> title (maybe not the right word), some way or the other.

> But there are a few who truly 'receive' a title from others ( not

only the

> group of followers ).

>

> And is it not so, that these are the ones we all can agree upon, as

being

> genuine?

>

> Alan

>

 

lol generally the true spiritual masters are like thieves: the best

ones are never known publicly - they are never caught! they go about

doing what they have to do, and their true identity is known to very

few. they are "hidden". and true spiritual schools are often veiled

and appear as a mundane enterprise...

yet without their presence no community can survive. they are

concerned with effect, not apperances.

and when two thieves meet - they recognize each other without

introduction lol

 

yosy

 

ps. al, amigo, could you please explain the saying 'to take the leaf

from the mouth'? not sure i get it...

 

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> yosyx [yosyflug@i...]

> 9. november 2004 00:44

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> Re: Osho, Jiddu, etc.

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> , jerry weinstein

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> > Although I've done my share of castigating "false" or

fallen

> teachers in the past, I've cooled it in recent years. I'm always

> genuinely ambivalent about it, feeling the need on the one hand to

> honor factual truths, but at the same time not wanting to insult a

> devotee of said teacher.

> >

> > Sooo, with that in mind: What appears to be idle gossip is

> one thing. ANY teacher, no matter how pure, is going to have

things

> said about him/her at some point, human nature being what it is.

But

> matters like being charged with felonies, getting kicked out of a

> country, having a sangha go completely out of control indulging in

> every possible form of excess ..... well, I would say that's a

little

> different.

> >

> > That doesn't mean one couldn't have benefitted from certain

> positive experiences with the teacher. But I think the spiritual

> community can only evolve by having some degree of critical

analysis

> and some standards of behavior.

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>

>

> the teacher can be evaluated by his/her students. true spiritual

> development is indicated by natural increase of student's humility

> and compassion. it is easily observable fact that followers of

false

> teachers lack those developements; on the contrary. hypocrites,

> conscious or not, the self infatuated and the misled, attract

people

> with similar tendencies...

> true love is not all hugs and kisses and soft speech. imitations

of

> what people associate with "spirituality" are easy. but inner

value

> is entirely different.

>

> respectfully,

> yosy

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"yosyx" <yosyflug

2004/11/08 Mon PM 05:43:40 CST

Re: Osho, Jiddu, etc.

 

true love is not all hugs and kisses and soft speech.

 

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Dear One:

 

hugs and kisses plus soft speech can't be all bad.

 

Love and blessings

 

Love, serve, and be helpful, but without getting disgusted, tired, pessimistic,

and exhausted. Blessings dear souls, blessings!

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"Al Larus" <erilarend

2004/11/08 Mon PM 06:10:00 CST

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RE: Re: Osho, Jiddu, etc.

 

 

Here we have a saying 'to take the leaf from the mouth'

 

I must confess one of the persons mentioned did annoy me many years ago when

somebody in the good book shop in town used three out of four shelves

reserved for the very best literature for his books : ).

 

Has it not always been like this, some clever people will give themselves a

title (maybe not the right word), some way or the other.

But there are a few who truly 'receive' a title from others ( not only the

group of followers ).

 

And is it not so, that these are the ones we all can agree upon, as being

genuine?

 

Alan

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thank you dear one.

 

Love and blessings

 

 

Love, serve, and be helpful, but without getting disgusted, tired, pessimistic,

and exhausted. Blessings dear souls, blessings!

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"Yosy Flug" <yosyflug

2004/11/09 Tue PM 05:00:11 CST

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lmao somehow i expected you to say it...

 

yosy the rude

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Dear One:

 

When you have expectations, they will be either satisfied or not.

 

Thus spake the Maharishi.

 

Love and blessings.

 

Love, serve, and be helpful, but without getting disgusted, tired, pessimistic,

and exhausted. Blessings dear souls, blessings!

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lmao somehow i expected you to say it...

 

yosy the rude

 

 

MaharishiBingoRam [bingoram]

Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:00 AM

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"yosyx" <yosyflug

2004/11/08 Mon PM 05:43:40 CST

Re: Osho, Jiddu, etc.

 

true love is not all hugs and kisses and soft speech.

 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Dear One:

 

hugs and kisses plus soft speech can't be all bad.

 

Love and blessings

 

 

 

 

 

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