Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad In the late 1920s Lakshman Sarma had the rare privilege of having private lessons from Bhagavan. Their subject was the philosophy and practical teachings expounded by Bhagavan in Ulladu Narpadu. Lakshman Sarma subsequently summarised the essence of these lessons in two works: his Tamil commentary on Ulladu Narpadu and Revelation, his expanded Sanskrit rendering of the original Ulladu Narpadu verses. In the 1930s Bhagavan remarked that Lakshman Sarma’s commentary on Ulladu Narpadu was the best available on that work. In the late 1930s Lakshman Sarma put many of these ideas and explanations into Maha Yoga, his English presentation of Bhagavan’s teachings. In the 1950s Lakshman Sarma made a further attempt to explain and summarise Bhagavan’s teachings. He composed a Sanskrit work of over 700 verses, entitling it Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad. This work was serialised in The Call Divine, a Bombay magazine that regularly featured articles by Bhagavan’s devotees. The material was never published in book form, although I have been told that Lakshman Sarma’s family are now looking into the possibility of publishing the whole work. I should like to thank Lakshman Sarma’s grandson, Vijay Sarma, for permission to post this version of the work here on this site. The text I am giving here is an edited version of the English text that appeared in the 1950s serialisation. I have omitted the Sanskrit and revised the remaining English translation by Lakshman Sarma since his English style in this work style was at times very eccentric. The square brackets in the translations of the verses were mostly put there by Lakshman Sarma in order to expand and clarify the original Sanskrit, which was occasionally terse and sutra-like. The intervening comments, which feature in coloured italics, are his own comments and explanations. My own comments appear in the footnotes. The subtitle that Lakshman Sarma gave this work – ‘The Supreme Science of the Self as Taught by Sri Ramana’ – is a slightly expanded version of the main title. 1. Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad 1-321 (Verses 1-321) 2. Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad 322-701 (Verses 322-701) --- 9 The world appearance is ignorantly superimposed by the mind upon that substratum, which is the truth of the Self. It [the world appearance] conceals that reality and shines [as if it is] real so long as the ignorance persists. Ignorance and mind are inseparable; where there is mind, there alone is ignorance; where there is no mind, there is no ignorance, since in the mind-free state the real Self is not concealed. This explains why the real Self is not known to men in general. An analogy is next given to help to understand the above statement. 10 Just as, in a dim light, the snake concealing the real rope is taken as real in its own sight, so the world, concealing the Self, appears as real in its own sight. This is the state of ignorance. The notion of the Self that develops because of this basic ignorance is described next. 11 Because of ignorance, the Self is believed to be limited to the body. [in that state] it enjoys and suffers, is bound by bonds of desire to the world, [and appears to be] ignorant and distinct from the Supreme Being. Really the Self is identical with it, not other. This mistaken view of one’s own Self is the starting point of all the evil, known as samsara, which means the necessity of being born and dying in an endless cycle. But all this is unreal, as explained in the very first verse of Ekatma Panchakam (The Five Verses on the One Self), where it is said that mistaking the body for the Self, the cycle of births and deaths, Self-realisation and becoming the Self, are all a dream, like a world tour in a dream. Discover all that’s new in My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear Ramesh,What is most Awe inspiring about Bhagavan is that, though He is the Incarnation of Jnana and the transcendental Awareness, He is the object of pure Bhakti in the hearts of His devotees. A perfect mixture of Jnana and Bhakti! You are right Ramesh that He has stolen our hearts. Is He not Hari as well as Siva?It is joy to sail in the same boat, all of us together!john ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chivMay 24, 2009 11:50:54 PM EDT Subject: Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Dear Alan , Well said.. Why do we love our beloved Bhagavan so much ( even though he may appear cold and aloof to those who really dont know him ) ? It is because of HIS promise that he will continue to guide us through and that HE will never let go ! Just that one thought is sufficient to burn all our so called miseries away ! Having said that , I must confess that I do slip into the clutches of maya , every now and then .. only to be rescued in time by the most benevolent ONE ! love and pranams to all who are sailing in the same boat ! ramesh --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk>Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:07 AM Dear Ramesh, I heard the late Robert Adams, the American Jnani -who spent three years with Bhagavan 1947-50 (see the official site of the Infinity Institute- and author of Silence of the Heart) say in Sedona, that the day of your Self Realisation was already written. We are in the jaws of the tiger, and Bhagavan will never let us go. Yours, in Bhagavan, Love, Alan --- On Mon, 25/5/09, ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ > wrote: ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ >Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, 25 May, 2009, 3:28 AM Suffice it to say that it is only a matter of time before the goal is acheived. With that faith firmly entrenched , we can surely cross all bridges. Patience is the first and foremost requirement for a sadhaka. love ramesh --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> wrote: John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad"" <>Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:52 PM Verse 481:The devotee or seeker of the Self who becomes discouraged by the thought "When shall I attain the natural state?" hinders progress on the path of deliverance by having such a thought.John Andreadis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear John , True .. it is such a joy to meet and share with devotees .. It is again HIS GRACE that is at work .. Sometimes , when things appear too dark , all I have to think that such divine incarnates as Bhagavan Ramana and Sage Ramakrishna lived on this very earth and that too - not too many decades ago . That very thought itself keeps me going , come what may ! love ramesh --- On Mon, 5/25/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis wrote: John Andreadis <johnandreadisRe: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:12 PM Dear Ramesh, What is most Awe inspiring about Bhagavan is that, though He is the Incarnation of Jnana and the transcendental Awareness, He is the object of pure Bhakti in the hearts of His devotees. A perfect mixture of Jnana and Bhakti! You are right Ramesh that He has stolen our hearts. Is He not Hari as well as Siva? It is joy to sail in the same boat, all of us together! john ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ > May 24, 2009 11:50:54 PM EDT Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Dear Alan , Well said.. Why do we love our beloved Bhagavan so much ( even though he may appear cold and aloof to those who really dont know him ) ? It is because of HIS promise that he will continue to guide us through and that HE will never let go ! Just that one thought is sufficient to burn all our so called miseries away ! Having said that , I must confess that I do slip into the clutches of maya , every now and then .. only to be rescued in time by the most benevolent ONE ! love and pranams to all who are sailing in the same boat ! ramesh --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote: Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk>Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, May 25, 2009, 8:07 AM Dear Ramesh, I heard the late Robert Adams, the American Jnani -who spent three years with Bhagavan 1947-50 (see the official site of the Infinity Institute- and author of Silence of the Heart) say in Sedona, that the day of your Self Realisation was already written. We are in the jaws of the tiger, and Bhagavan will never let us go. Yours, in Bhagavan, Love, Alan --- On Mon, 25/5/09, ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ > wrote: ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ >Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, 25 May, 2009, 3:28 AM Suffice it to say that it is only a matter of time before the goal is acheived. With that faith firmly entrenched , we can surely cross all bridges. Patience is the first and foremost requirement for a sadhaka. love ramesh --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> wrote: John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad"" <>Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:52 PM Verse 481:The devotee or seeker of the Self who becomes discouraged by the thought "When shall I attain the natural state?" hinders progress on the path of deliverance by having such a thought.John Andreadis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Thank you, Harsha, for introducing me.I still remember vividly getting a postcard in the mail with Sr Ramana Maharshi's face on it. Before I had even read anything about him, I was amazed that a photograph could have so much power to generate peace within me.A friend on Facebook joined the Facebook group of Sri Ramana Maharshi, which reminded me that I would like to feel his presence again more regularly.Blessings to everyone,Ava R.On May 25, 2009, at 10:17 AM, ramesh chivukula wrote:Dear John , True .. it is such a joy to meet and share with devotees .. It is again HIS GRACE that is at work .. Sometimes , when things appear too dark , all I have to think that such divine incarnates as Bhagavan Ramana and Sage Ramakrishna lived on this very earth and that too - not too many decades ago . That very thought itself keeps me going , come what may ! love ramesh--- On Mon, 5/25/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis (AT) mac (DOT) com>wrote:John Andreadis <johnandreadis (AT) mac (DOT) com>Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:12 PMDear Ramesh,What is most Awe inspiring about Bhagavan is that, though He is the Incarnation of Jnana and the transcendental Awareness, He is the object of pure Bhakti in the hearts of His devotees. A perfect mixture of Jnana and Bhakti! You are right Ramesh that He has stolen our hearts. Is He not Hari as well as Siva?It is joy to sail in the same boat, all of us together!john ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ >Date: May 24, 2009 11:50:54 PM EDTTo: Subject: Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Dear Alan , Well said.. Why do we love our beloved Bhagavan so much ( even though he may appear cold and aloof to those who really dont know him ) ? It is because of HIS promise that he will continue to guide us through and that HE will never let go ! Just that one thought is sufficient to burn all our so called miseries away ! Having said that , I must confess that I do slip into the clutches of maya , every now and then .. only to be rescued in time by the most benevolent ONE ! love and pranams to all who are sailing in the same boat ! ramesh--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote:Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk>Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, May 25, 2009, 8:07 AMDear Ramesh, I heard the late Robert Adams, the American Jnani -who spent three years with Bhagavan 1947-50 (see the official site of the Infinity Institute- and author of Silence of the Heart) say in Sedona, that the day of your Self Realisation was already written. We are in the jaws of the tiger, and Bhagavan will never let us go. Yours, in Bhagavan, Love, Alan --- On Mon, 25/5/09, ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ > wrote:ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ >Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, 25 May, 2009, 3:28 AMSuffice it to say that it is only a matter of time before the goal is acheived.With that faith firmly entrenched , we can surely cross all bridges.Patience is the first and foremost requirement for a sadhaka. love ramesh--- On Sun, 5/24/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> wrote:John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad"" <>Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:52 PMVerse 481:The devotee or seeker of the Self who becomes discouraged by the thought "When shall I attain the natural state?" hinders progress on the path of deliverance by having such a thought.John Andreadis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Dear John sailing in the same boat what a nice expression b u t endless ongoing effort to remain TRUE to ONE SELF is needed in all times specially in dark times yours in bhagavan michael - John Andreadis Monday, May 25, 2009 1:42 PM Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Dear Ramesh, What is most Awe inspiring about Bhagavan is that, though He is the Incarnation of Jnana and the transcendental Awareness, He is the object of pure Bhakti in the hearts of His devotees. A perfect mixture of Jnana and Bhakti! You are right Ramesh that He has stolen our hearts. Is He not Hari as well as Siva? It is joy to sail in the same boat, all of us together! john ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv > May 24, 2009 11:50:54 PM EDT Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Dear Alan , Well said.. Why do we love our beloved Bhagavan so much ( even though he may appear cold and aloof to those who really dont know him ) ? It is because of HIS promise that he will continue to guide us through and that HE will never let go ! Just that one thought is sufficient to burn all our so called miseries away ! Having said that , I must confess that I do slip into the clutches of maya , every now and then .. only to be rescued in time by the most benevolent ONE ! love and pranams to all who are sailing in the same boat ! ramesh --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk>Re: Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:07 AM Dear Ramesh, I heard the late Robert Adams, the American Jnani -who spent three years with Bhagavan 1947-50 (see the official site of the Infinity Institute- and author of Silence of the Heart) say in Sedona, that the day of your Self Realisation was already written. We are in the jaws of the tiger, and Bhagavan will never let us go. Yours, in Bhagavan, Love, Alan --- On Mon, 25/5/09, ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ > wrote: ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv@ >Re: Sri Ramana ParavidyopanishadMonday, 25 May, 2009, 3:28 AM < tbody> Suffice it to say that it is only a matter of time before the goal is acheived. With that faith firmly entrenched , we can surely cross all bridges. Patience is the first and foremost requirement for a sadhaka. love ramesh --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> wrote: John Andreadis <johnandreadis@ mac.com> Sri Ramana Paravidyopanishad"" <>Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:52 PM Verse 481:The devotee or seeker of the Self who becomes discouraged by the thought "When shall I attain the natural state?" hinders progress on the path of deliverance by having such a thought.John Andreadis Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release 05/24/09 07:09:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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