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advaitajnana, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:

 

advaitin@ mind. Therefore, what I said holds at this level.

>

> Tony<<However if it were existing even after the mind is dissolved

then it would

> still exist for those that have become the Universal at

> Moksha. However this doesn't happen, it disappears on dropping the

body.>>

>

> Dennis.Common sense (if nothing else) must differ here. The Sage

must still see the

> form of 'others' and remember their names since he appears still to

> communicate with his disciples. That he now knows that there are

no others

> and all that he sees is only Brahman is beside the point.

>

>Tony <<Otherwise what you are saying is that God/Nirguna is unaware

of the world

> and its existence. This is duality and the reason that Nirguna

> is unaware of the world is because it never happened.>>

>

>Dennis Not at all. Surely the form of the world is known through

the form of the

> mind. All is one - no duality. That it was never created does not

man that

> it doesn't exist.

>

> Best wishes,Dennis.

 

Namaste Dennis,

 

The Mukti or sage sees the world with his residual

purified ,vijnanamayakosa, which is all that distinguishes him from

the Universal Mind. However there is a function without the

feeling 'I' am doing something.IMO.

 

On dropping of the body all this mind disappears as having never

ever existed. It seems the point you are making, which is the same

as a lot other 'Advaitins' are making is that illusion and Brahman

are one. This has some validity to Saguna Brahman, but as Saguna is

ultimately unreal, we have to fall back on Nirguna and illusion

never having happened at all...........Which is well evidenced in

Sushputi and Samahdi..........ONS...Tony.

--- End forwarded message ---

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