Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Namaste,IMO Ramana says be conscious of 'I'. So why aren't more people realised? Ramana indicates later that tendencies and samskaras are the problem it seems. IMO Dharma is the appropriate conduct for our state of life. For example it is ok for animals to kill and eat each other. It is only ok for human animals to do this-----eat meat, they know no better. Aspiring humans shouldn't do so and of course human beings don't. It is ok for a cop or soldier to kill if that is their dharma, it is not alright for others. For realisation Daya or compassion is a step on the road. A person who isn't compassionate to animals has difficulty being compassionate to human animals, aspiring humans and human beings. Human Dharma is all wrapped up with Ahimsa, Love and Sathya, and cannot be separated from each other. There is a lot going on below the radar in the human mind, so if one conveniently ignores something and puts in on the 'back burner' it is still there complete with samksaras, vasanas etc. If I rob a person or steal their car or house, it is no matter how spiritual I seem and convince myself. Realisation will be hindered by the 'below radar' effect of the Asharmic act, whether it is in daily consciousness or not. How to deal with this samskaric causing condition then? Well make restitution and compensation, try and put it right. Sometimes the problem is inherited or it is a problem that cannot be immediately solved without causing further harm or requiring a courage stronger than the normal. However it must be worked on. For we are judged by our mental actions, for our physical actions are predetermined. So if my attitude is and acceptance that a wrong has been done and I will try my best to right it----that is the right attitude and passes the karmic and dharmic test. However if one invents a lie, or bolsters another lie, or tries to rationalise the adharma and asathya them karma is created to repeat a similar situation again. So this may be all under the radar, so that no matter how much one may spout spirituality and read etc. These are only superficial mind exercises, the obstacles to realising the 'I' are there as samskaras and an unpurified Buddhi. The good action in this case only create future good karmas they don't lead to liberation. So we have no freewill on the action but we do on what our attitude is to it----so surrender the fruits, live dharmically, purify the Buddhi..............ONS....Saktidas/Tony IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 , "saktidasa" <saktidasa> wrote: > > Namaste,IMO > > Ramana says be conscious of 'I'. So why aren't more people realised? > Ramana indicates later that tendencies and samskaras are the problem > it seems. > > IMO Dharma is the appropriate conduct for our state of life. For > example it is ok for animals to kill and eat each other. It is only ok > for human animals to do this-----eat meat, they know no better. > Aspiring humans shouldn't do so and of course human beings don't. It > is ok for a cop or soldier to kill if that is their dharma, it is not > alright for others. > > For realisation Daya or compassion is a step on the road. A person who > isn't compassionate to animals has difficulty being compassionate to > human animals, aspiring humans and human beings. > > Human Dharma is all wrapped up with Ahimsa, Love and Sathya, and > cannot be separated from each other. > > There is a lot going on below the radar in the human mind, so if one > conveniently ignores something and puts in on the 'back burner' it is > still there complete with samksaras, vasanas etc. > > If I rob a person or steal their car or house, it is no matter how > spiritual I seem and convince myself. Realisation will be hindered by > the 'below radar' effect of the Asharmic act, whether it is in daily > consciousness or not. > > How to deal with this samskaric causing condition then? Well make > restitution and compensation, try and put it right. Sometimes the > problem is inherited or it is a problem that cannot be immediately > solved without causing further harm or requiring a courage stronger > than the normal. However it must be worked on. > > For we are judged by our mental actions, for our physical actions are > predetermined. So if my attitude is and acceptance that a wrong has > been done and I will try my best to right it----that is the right > attitude and passes the karmic and dharmic test. However if one > invents a lie, or bolsters another lie, or tries to rationalise the > adharma and asathya them karma is created to repeat a similar > situation again. So this may be all under the radar, so that no matter > how much one may spout spirituality and read etc. These are only > superficial mind exercises, the obstacles to realising the 'I' are > there as samskaras and an unpurified Buddhi. The good action in this > case only create future good karmas they don't lead to liberation. > > So we have no freewill on the action but we do on what our attitude is > to it----so surrender the fruits, live dharmically, purify the > Buddhi..............ONS....Saktidas/Tony IMHO. I recall a time when I meditated and meditated, it seems morning, noon, and night, yet, I couldn't find any sort of light or blue pearl (or anything) during the meditation. So I contemplated on that -- why am I not seeing any kind of light? It instantly occurred to me that I had an expectation of what this *light* would look like. For all I knew, the light could be like a light bulb going off in my head, sort of like a revelation, or 'voila!'. Realizing this, I let go of all expectations. What does this have to do with the subject: Dharma/Right and appropriate conduct? I don't know. I just read your post and this memory came back to me. Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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