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Namaste,

 

This falls into different categories.

 

1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems to

suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to do

anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and say 'Who

am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to come to some

of them.

Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,????????? but

also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana.

 

2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its

precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc. They

are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are Bhaktas.

 

3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and

arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires a

whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and

purification to fully understand it. It is not instant gratification,

pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of Sadhana.

 

So there are many stages on the path and many in following the

teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even

understand non dualism intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.

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, "saktidasa" <saktidasa> wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> This falls into different categories.

>

> 1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems to

> suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to do

> anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and say 'Who

> am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to come to some

> of them.

> Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,????????? but

> also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana.

>

> 2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its

> precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc. They

> are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are

Bhaktas.

>

> 3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and

> arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires a

> whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and

> purification to fully understand it. It is not instant gratification,

> pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of Sadhana.

>

> So there are many stages on the path and many in following the

> teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even

> understand non dualism intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.

 

 

Namaste toni,

 

Why bother to concern yourself with such things? Is pride in one's

sadhana a hindrance for you, perhaps? You know of course that the

Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? The Self is not

reached, but that you are the Self? You need only to make room by

removing these thoughts.

 

love,

Shawn

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, "Shawn Hair" <shawn@w...>

wrote:> > whole lot of sadh>

>

> Namaste toni,

>

> Why bother to concern yourself with such things? Is pride in one's

> sadhana a hindrance for you, perhaps? You know of course that the

> Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? The Self is not

> reached, but that you are the Self? You need only to make room by

> removing these thoughts.

>

> love,

> Shawn

 

Namaste,

 

I was not talking about myself, I need to do better. There is no state

to be in for it never ever happened. There is no Self/Saguna only

Nirguna IMO....ONS..Tony.

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-arrived at Trueintellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony.

>

>

> Namaste toni,

>

> Why bother to concern yourself with such things? Is pride in one's

> sadhana a hindrance for you, perhaps? You know of course that the

> Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? The Self is not

> reached, but that you are the Self? You need only to make room by

> removing these thoughts.

>

> love,

> Shawn

 

Namaste Shawn,

 

Some discussion on Ajata.......

 

http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/Ajatavada.htm

 

ONS...Saktidas/Tony

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