Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 , sse hu <sse_hu> wrote: > Dear Mr. Shawn > > > > i am new to this group HarshaSatsang. > > I want to let you know that i like the nice way you answered the mail of Mr. Saktidasa. > > One question please: > > > > You know of course that the > Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? > > > > in which state please? >From The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi- under the chapter called self- Realization D: Since realization is not possible without vasana-ksaya, how am I to realize that state in which the vasanas are effectively destroyed? M: You are in that state now! )))))))Shawn > thank you for your effort and patience > > > > in Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > sse_hu Shawn Hair <shawn@w...> wrote: > > , "saktidasa" <saktidasa> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > This falls into different categories. > > > > 1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems to > > suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to do > > anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and say 'Who > > am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to come to some > > of them. > > Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,????????? but > > also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana. > > > > 2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its > > precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc. They > > are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are > Bhaktas. > > > > 3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and > > arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires a > > whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and > > purification to fully understand it. It is not instant gratification, > > pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of Sadhana. > > > > So there are many stages on the path and many in following the > > teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even > > understand non dualism intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony. > > > Namaste toni, > > Why bother to concern yourself with such things? Is pride in one's > sadhana a hindrance for you, perhaps? You know of course that the > Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? The Self is not > reached, but that you are the Self? You need only to make room by > removing these thoughts. > > love, > Shawn > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Dear Mr. Shaws thank you it is "so simple" that i could not trust my intuition getting rid of all thoughts "just" being "empty" leads us (at least "me") in a state which i call "sat chit ananda" starting to think again by being drawn into "normal life" a n d not being attentive enough: suffering is this something which makes sense to you too??? in Sri Ramana Maharshi sse_hu >"Shawn Hair" <shawn (AT) withouraloha (DOT) com> > > > Re: Why Westerners follow Ramana. >Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:11:08 -0000 > > >, sse hu <sse_hu> wrote: > > Dear Mr. Shawn > > > > > > > > i am new to this group HarshaSatsang. > > > > I want to let you know that i like the nice way you answered the >mail of Mr. Saktidasa. > > > > One question please: > > > > > > > > You know of course that the > > Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? > > > > > > > > in which state please? > > >From The Spiritual Teaching of Ramana Maharshi- under the chapter >called self- Realization > > >D: Since realization is not possible without vasana-ksaya, how am I to >realize that state in which the vasanas are effectively destroyed? > >M: You are in that state now! > >)))))))Shawn > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your effort and patience > > > > > > > > in Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > sse_hu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shawn Hair <shawn@w...> wrote: > > > > , "saktidasa" <saktidasa> >wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > This falls into different categories. > > > > > > 1. First of all there are those that like the teachings and seems to > > > suit the western instant gratification syndrome. You don't have to do > > > anything, just read his books, preach a little about love and say 'Who > > > am I?'. Misunderstanding and practical hypocrisy seem to come to some > > > of them. > > > Others make a Godform out of him and worship an advaitin,????????? but > > > also without a lot of committment to any great Sadhana. > > > > > > 2. Then there are those that apply the Hindu Dharma and all its > > > precepts and concepts, including Ahimsa, vegetarianism etc etc. They > > > are essentially a Hindu Sect and that's alright for those who are > > Bhaktas. > > > > > > 3. Lastly there are those that have gone through the stages and > > > arrived at True Self Enquiry. And realise that 'Who am I' requires a > > > whole lot of sadhana and practice to get the mental maturity, and > > > purification to fully understand it. It is not instant gratification, > > > pollyanna, emotionalism but a complex system of Sadhana. > > > > > > So there are many stages on the path and many in following the > > > teaching of Ramana. As Maharaj said only one man in Mumbai can even > > > understand non dualism >intellectually................ONS..Saktidas/Tony. > > > > > > Namaste toni, > > > > Why bother to concern yourself with such things? Is pride in one's > > sadhana a hindrance for you, perhaps? You know of course that the > > Maharshi has told us we are in that state now? The Self is not > > reached, but that you are the Self? You need only to make room by > > removing these thoughts. > > > > love, > > Shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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