Lady Joyce

December 2, 2004

Are you any relation to see_hu_later_alligator??

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MICHAEL BINDEL

Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:45 AM

Lady Joyce

Dear Mrs. Lady Joyce

i am new to this list and this is my first posting to you.

Excuse my disturbance and my english.

First

i enjoyed your warm and understanding answer to this "preacher-like" message you responded to....

one question i ask you

why did you state

......."the God that does not exist"

are we not "in the end" all "part of God"?

instead of God we could use any other word

it is likewise with the term "love" the most misused term on earth

but this does not change the fact - at least with "me" that real Love

exists and this is for "me" God too....

could you please dear Lady Joyce send me information/liks (good ones

if they are...) about SATTVIC food

without being dogmatic (what a trap....) i tend slowly but surely to

accept that "i" need this kind of food

thank you again for your efforts your time and your passion

and sorry for disturbing you in your daily work

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

sse_hu

>"saktidasa" <saktidasa > >

>

> Re: In a Hurry... >Date:

Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:06:39 -0000 > > >--- In

, "saktidasa" <saktidasa> wrote: >

> > > , "Lady Joyce"

<shaantih@c...> >wrote: > > > Dear Tony: > > > > > > I think you

missed your calling. > > > You should have been one of those Fire and

Brimstone > > > preachers. Each person will arrive where they > > >

arrive in this world that never happened when > > > it is time for

them to do so. All your editorial > > > comments and judgmental

claptrap does little > > > to promote your cause IMO, hahahahahah ;-)

.. > > > > > > Truth is, I ate meat for 47 years before I became

vegetarian. > > > Now, I find myself slowly moving towards a vegan

diet. It is not > > > just the eating of meat which bothers me now.

After > > > reading some of the sites and the details of how the > >

> animals are treated and physically tortured and manipulated > > >

into producing milk and eggs, I am bothered by those thoughts > > >

as well. Still, I did not move there completely yet, and it is partly

> > > possible allergies which are also motivating me. The God that >

> > does not exist works in strange ways, no?One way or another, > > >

I will end up with a totally sattvic diet, if that is the way it is >

> meant > > > to be. In the meantime, I try not to judge myself, but

to Be As I Am. > > > > > > So tell me, Tony, do you eat eggs? Do you

eat dairy products? > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > Love, > > > >

> > Joyce > > Namaste, > > > > Only when I am visiting people in Tel

Aviv..........ONS...Tony. > >Namaste, >Also one can drink soy milk

and eat free range if one wants to eat >dairy and eggs. Ignoring

violence against animals out of misplaced >compassion for people's

views is actually a violation of Ahimsa, >Sathayam, and Dharma. I'm

not speaking of the 'human animals' but >those who claim to be

aspiring humans and devotees. >

>http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/AVEGETARIANandAHIMSA.htm > >As Dr.

Albert Schweitzer tells us: > >"I cannot but have reverence for all

that is called life. I cannot >avoid compassion for everything that

is called life. That is the >beginning of morality. Once a man has

experienced it and continues to >do so he/she is ethical. He carries

morality within him/her and can >never lose it, for it continues to

develop within him. He who has >never experienced this has only a set

of superficial principles. > >These theories have no root in him, they

do not belong to him, and >they fall off him......Reverence for life

comprises the whole ethic of >love in its deepest and highest sense.

It is the source of constant >renewal for the individual and for

mankind.(Respect for life is >compassion, which is a prerequisite for

understanding.) > >(Scheitzer pp 116-177) (1) >

>...ONS...Saktidas/Tony > > >

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"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

December 2, 2004

Dear Mr. MICHAEL BINDEL AKA sse_hu :-)

Oh, Michael, I do love you and your total inability to be

anything but completely Michael, even when you are

trying to be 007. As in Bond, James Bond, I mean,

Michael Bindel, I mean, sse_hu, too!!!

Well, sse_hu, since this is your first message to me, let

me welcome you and whoever else comes with you. Let

me also tell you that your messages are coming through

under the name Michael Bindel.

Hint to Michael: When you answer an email,

you need to look at the top field in your message which is

designated "From" If you have more than one name

which you use, the drop down box will allow you to choose

who you are for that message :-)

you wrote: one question i ask you

why did you state

......."the God that does not exist"

The God who does not exist does not exist for Tony, not

for me. I was joking when I used that phrase since there

was a thread a while back where Tony espoused that there

is no God...remember? To paraphrase Tony...

It never happened...it is all an illusion...

there is only Nirguna, and even that does not exist;-)

For me, I do not trouble myself with all of these distinctions, at least

not to the point where it gives me what I call a nondual headache.

in fact, I am getting one now just trying to find the words to explain

this to you :-) So, moving on...

If you look at the next message on "eating eggs, the rationale"

you will find some links there. The best thing for you to do.

007, I mean, sse_hu, is to Google the internet and enter words

like "sattvic food" or "sattvic diet" and you will come up with many links.

As I explore this more myself, if I find something I really like,

I will post it. And Michael, Love indeed does exist, and it

is not just an "attribute" of Saguna, as some like to say. It Is.

Or as Sri Maharshi said... "Love itself is an actual form of God."

Love,

Joyce

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MICHAEL BINDEL

Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:45 AM