Neve Shalom / Wahat al-Salam

[Guest guest]

>> "When Jews and Arabs get together, live together--they create their

> own miracle; Neve Shalom/Wahat al-Salam is such a miracle. It deserves

> our warmest support, for it justifies our highest hopes." -Elie

> Wiesel, Nobel Laureate

>>

>> "I would like to see the moment when there will be such a thing as

> Neve Shalom/Wahat al-Salam not only between the Palestinians and

> Israelis, but between all the people in the Middle East." -Faisal

> al-Husseini, Palestinian Leader

>>

>> "Peace actually begins in our homes, in communities like this and in

> our hearts. And it has to be nurtured between and among human beings,

> and then passed on to our children." -First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton

>

> Namaste,

>

> This is what everyone needs, and it must be done with Sathya, Love and

> Dharma, Restitution and or compensation. Wrongs must be righted to

> preserve the balance........ONS...Tony.

 

Namaste T:

 

Some suggestions just for you...

 

1. Sathya/Love: You can give your home and all belonging to the native

Canadian Indians

as reparation for the theft of their land. Dharma: you can then live the

rest of your own life which never happened in the Canadian woods in a cave,

contemplating the meaning of "I"

 

2. Restitution: You can apologize with love and sathya to all those whom

you have offended or hurt with insensitive, pompous and/or judgmental

remarks on this sangha.

 

3. Compensation: You can pay me for my good advice :-) Where should I

sent the bill?

 

Love,

 

Joyce

[Guest guest]

, "saktidasa" <saktidasa>

wrote:

>

>

>

> Namaste J,

>

> I'm not comparing myself to anybody. Some things will always upset

> somebody. I try in my own inimical fashion to put a point across

> that's all. I find this group interesting because there are so many

> seekers and neophytes on here. 'Confrontational Yoga' I call it--my

> contribution to the yogas-makes people and oneself examine one's

> conscience with regard to subjects such as Ahimsa and meat eating

etc.

> People then aren't sneaking around under the radar hahaahahah. Have

> you ever thought that I may be so argumentative because my

grandmother

> was Jewish? hahahahaahahah....and I spent a lot of time with

> her....Two Jews Three arguments hahah..........ONS...Tony. Shalom,

> Saalaam, Santhi-Santhi-Santhi.

 

 

 

Dear Tony,

 

My mother and her twin sister trump your grandmothers, and between

the two of them and my Jewish father (who was also a lawyer) I know

how to argue as well as anybody.

 

If you gleaned half as much joy from your sadhana as you do from

causing mishchief, then we might really have something to learn from

you! Besides restraint. Incredible restraint. *LOL* (That's a

great lesson, though, so I'm not complaining.)

 

Cheers to you and all, and thanks Harsha for your kind words,

 

Kheyala

[Guest guest]

I have advised Tony many

times to start his own list. TonySangha or ShaktiDas Heaven.

There is always that possibility

that seekers after the truth would be joining in flocks to discuss Ajatavada

and different stages that never happened.

Frankly it could be a lot

of fun (although it never happened).

As long as you are here

Tony, listen to what Kheyala and Joyce and others are telling you (although I

guess they have never said anything).

I am moderating people on

pure whim now. So whatever happens, remember nothing ever happened.

Love,

Harsha

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[shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net]

Thursday, December 02, 2004

9:13 PM

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Ramana Guru] Re: Neve Shalom / Wahat al-Salam

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You know, Tony, if just once, you would actually

examine

your own behavior honestly, instead of

rationalizing and

justifying what you do or say, based upon your

"blunt"

style, or comparing yourself to some sage,

coming up

with some example of something they did, and

trying

to analogize it to what you do, you might actually

get

somewhere with your sadhana. Wishing you the

best of luck..may you be enlightened in this

lifetime,

may Moksha be yours, etc etc. I am signing

off now,

as I really get tired of going round the mulberry

bush!!!

I think I will go

meditate.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmooooooooooooooooooooo

I mean,

OOOOOOOOOOOMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........

Love and Shalom,

Joyce

/join

 

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

Sri Ramana

In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by

Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">saktidasa

[saktidasa ]

Sunday, December 05, 2004

1:13 PM

[ - Ramana

Guru] Re: Neve Shalom / Wahat al-Salam

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Namaste

H,

I have broad

shoulders and don't mind insults or barbs, but I notice

when other

are abusive and rude to this body, you hardly ever pick

them up on

it?.........Fairness and balance not influence is a better

way.............ONS..Tony.

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Dear Tony,

Honestly, I get a lot of

e-mail from people suggesting that I need to be more strict with you and that I

am not fair and balanced when it comes to moderating you and that you are

allowed to come back time after time even after being moderated. Some people

have even quit or quit posting on the list over this. The fact that you were

moderated but had an e-mail account from the past (which was not) allowed you to

start posting freely because I was too lazy to go to the list settings and

change them again.

The point is that I have

tried to be fair and balanced in moderation. It does not work. Someone or

another is always going to be unhappy about something or the other. So now I

moderate people based on purely on my whims and moods without explanation or

justification.

Thanks for letting us know

about your broad shoulders.

Harsha