garbage of the mind HOPEFUL HELPFUL HINT TO ALL OF US WHO NEEDS IT

December 15, 2004

Dear Michael,

just a question and no offense please. You always praise Maharshi

loudly, why then don't you follow his teaching on how to eliminate

thoughts through vichara, which is clear and simple. Your method

involves a whole new thinking process with all that assessing and

imagining, which can't be the purpose.

With Love

Christiane

>

> Keep your mind tidy

>

> what a good wonderful idea

> its not so difficult as dear gral-im-tee wrote

>

> michael does it the following way

>

> of course thoughts arise

>

> first step

>

> known thought? usually it is

>

> GO AWAY LIKE THE CLOUD ON THE SKY

>

> Negative and therefore poisoneus thought

>

> MUST BE BURNED IN FIRE

> IMAGINE THE FIRE AND THE THOUGHT BURNING

>

> Néw thought very rare indeed`if at all

>

> make a note to think about when there is peace and quit

>

> thoughts of love peace tranquility

>

> always welcome

>

> all this has to happen in moments has to be practided till it becomes

> a "routine" and afterwards be aware of not being an automat - trap!!!

>

> best "thing" imagine

>

> TRANQUILITY

>

> this has to be a "picture" suitable for each one as it suits himher

>

> this picture has to be imagined and in due time tranlocated with

> patience into the spiritual heart

>

> it took me a long time when i discovered how and why and when

>

> IT WORKS

>

> just try your way

>

> blessings to all

>

> in Ramana

>

> michael

>

> >"gral_im_tee" <gral_im_tee

> >

> > garbage of the mind

> >Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:59 -0000

> >

> >Hello Harsha and all,

> >

> > > Sri Ramana used to say as I vaguely recall that one need not

> > > analyze the

> > > contents of garbage in detail before throwing it away! :-). He was

> > > referring

> > > to the mind.

> >

> >It is obvious that Ramana lived in a time

> >where the idea of recycling was not yet born ;-)

> >

> >Today the mass of mind seems to be increasing to such an extent,

> >that we have to get used to the idea of sustaineable development

> >and hence to the idea of recycling!

> >

> >So from now on we should not waste the thoughts by just dropping

> >puttin' them into the garbage! We need to recycle thoughts in order

> >to avoid toxic Wastes. So lets be mindful: If thinking becomes

> >unavoidable, please collect your wastead thoughts according to the

> >gunas:

> >

> >one bucket tamas

> >one bucket rajas

> >one bucket sattva

> >

> >After thinking be mindful and look if there is more tamas ore more

> >rajas. Either we take the rajas in a way that we can burn the tamas,

> >by using it as a fuel to adaequately burn it,

> >or we are taming the rajas be using tamas as a liquid to drop over

> >it. Refining it further there will be no tamas left anymore and no

> >rajas either, using this method.

> >

> >Then there will be only left sattva!

> >

> >Being mindful again we will become aware of the fact that sattvic

> >thoughts are so beautiful and "smell" so sweet that there is no need

> >to do anything with them. So they can circle through all three-

> >brained-beings without creating any harm or mischief. :-))

> >This is called sustainable Management of thoughts.

> >

> >In fact you can let the sattvic thoughts pass and pecafully abide in

> >the truth - for the truth in the sattvic is the "SAT".

> >

> >Keep your mind tidy

> >

> >Sat Nam

> >

> >Martin

> >Thoughts Recycling Inc.

> >Planet Earth

> >

> > > Sri Ramana used to say as I vaguely recall that one need not

> >analyze the

> > > contents of garbage in detail before throwing it away! :-). He was

> >referring

> > > to the mind. This is radical nondualism. The Sage had a wonderful

> >sense of

> > > humor.

> > >

> > > Love to all

> > > Harsha

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Miles" <miles.wright@b...>

> > > "Ramana Maharshi" <RamanaMaharshi>

> > > Monday, December 13, 2004 8:20 AM

> > > [RamanaMaharshi] You are not the mind

> > >

> > > > It is the nature of the mind to wander. You are not the mind.

> The

> >mind

> > > > springs up and sinks down. It is impermanent, transitory,

> whereas

> >you are

> > > > eternal. There is nothing but the Self. To inhere in the Self is

> >the

> > > > thing.

> > > > Never mind the mind. If its source is sought, it will vanish

> >leaving the

> > > > Self unaffected.

> > > > ...

> > > > There is no mind to control if you realise the Self. The mind

> >vanishing,

> > > > the

> > > > Self shines forth. In the realised man the mind may be active or

> >inactive,

> > > > the Self alone remains for him. For the mind, the body and the

> >world are

> > > > not

> > > > separate from the Self. They rise from and sink into the Self.

> >They do not

> > > > remain apart from the Self. Can they be different from the Self?

> >Only be

> > > > aware of the Self. Why worry about these shadows? How do they

> >affect the

> > > > Self?

> > > >

> > > > (Talks; 97)

> >

>

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December 15, 2004

D: It is said in some books that one should cultivate al the good and

divine qualities in order to prepare oneself for Self-Realization.

Maharshi: For those who follow Jnana Marga, Self Enquiry is quite

enough for acquiring all the divine qualities, they need not do

anything else.

from "Day by day"

On Dec 16, 2004, at 01:17, christiane cameron wrote:

> Dear Michael,

>

> just a question and no offense please. You always praise Maharshi

> loudly, why then don't you follow his teaching on how to eliminate

> thoughts through vichara, which is clear and simple. Your method

> involves a whole new thinking process with all that assessing and

> imagining, which can't be the purpose.

>

> With Love

> Christiane

>

>>

>> Keep your mind tidy

>>

>> what a good wonderful idea

>> its not so difficult as dear gral-im-tee wrote

>>

>> michael does it the following way

>>

>> of course thoughts arise

>>

>> first step

>>

>> known thought? usually it is

>>

>> GO AWAY LIKE THE CLOUD ON THE SKY

>>

>> Negative and therefore poisoneus thought

>>

>> MUST BE BURNED IN FIRE

>> IMAGINE THE FIRE AND THE THOUGHT BURNING

>>

>> Néw thought very rare indeed`if at all

>>

>> make a note to think about when there is peace and quit

>>

>> thoughts of love peace tranquility

>>

>> always welcome

>>

>> all this has to happen in moments has to be practided till it becomes

>> a "routine" and afterwards be aware of not being an automat -

>> trap!!!

>>

>> best "thing" imagine

>>

>> TRANQUILITY

>>

>> this has to be a "picture" suitable for each one as it suits himher

>>

>> this picture has to be imagined and in due time tranlocated with

>> patience into the spiritual heart

>>

>> it took me a long time when i discovered how and why and when

>>

>> IT WORKS

>>

>> just try your way

>>

>> blessings to all

>>

>> in Ramana

>>

>> michael

>>

>> >"gral_im_tee" <gral_im_tee

>> >

>> > garbage of the mind

>> >Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:55:59 -0000

>> >

>> >Hello Harsha and all,

>> >

>> > > Sri Ramana used to say as I vaguely recall that one need not

>> > > analyze the

>> > > contents of garbage in detail before throwing it away! :-). He

>> was

>> > > referring

>> > > to the mind.

>> >

>> >It is obvious that Ramana lived in a time

>> >where the idea of recycling was not yet born ;-)

>> >

>> >Today the mass of mind seems to be increasing to such an extent,

>> >that we have to get used to the idea of sustaineable development

>> >and hence to the idea of recycling!

>> >

>> >So from now on we should not waste the thoughts by just dropping

>> >puttin' them into the garbage! We need to recycle thoughts in order

>> >to avoid toxic Wastes. So lets be mindful: If thinking becomes

>> >unavoidable, please collect your wastead thoughts according to the

>> >gunas:

>> >

>> >one bucket tamas

>> >one bucket rajas

>> >one bucket sattva

>> >

>> >After thinking be mindful and look if there is more tamas ore more

>> >rajas. Either we take the rajas in a way that we can burn the tamas,

>> >by using it as a fuel to adaequately burn it,

>> >or we are taming the rajas be using tamas as a liquid to drop over

>> >it. Refining it further there will be no tamas left anymore and no

>> >rajas either, using this method.

>> >

>> >Then there will be only left sattva!

>> >

>> >Being mindful again we will become aware of the fact that sattvic

>> >thoughts are so beautiful and "smell" so sweet that there is no need

>> >to do anything with them. So they can circle through all three-

>> >brained-beings without creating any harm or mischief. :-))

>> >This is called sustainable Management of thoughts.

>> >

>> >In fact you can let the sattvic thoughts pass and pecafully abide

>> in

>> >the truth - for the truth in the sattvic is the "SAT".

>> >

>> >Keep your mind tidy

>> >

>> >Sat Nam

>> >

>> >Martin

>> >Thoughts Recycling Inc.

>> >Planet Earth

>> >

>> > > Sri Ramana used to say as I vaguely recall that one need not

>> >analyze the

>> > > contents of garbage in detail before throwing it away! :-). He

>> was

>> >referring

>> > > to the mind. This is radical nondualism. The Sage had a wonderful

>> >sense of

>> > > humor.

>> > >

>> > > Love to all

>> > > Harsha

>> > >

>> > > -

>> > > "Miles" <miles.wright@b...>

>> > > "Ramana Maharshi" <RamanaMaharshi>

>> > > Monday, December 13, 2004 8:20 AM

>> > > [RamanaMaharshi] You are not the mind

>> > >

>> > > > It is the nature of the mind to wander. You are not the mind.

>> The

>> >mind

>> > > > springs up and sinks down. It is impermanent, transitory,

>> whereas

>> >you are

>> > > > eternal. There is nothing but the Self. To inhere in the Self

>> is

>> >the

>> > > > thing.

>> > > > Never mind the mind. If its source is sought, it will vanish

>> >leaving the

>> > > > Self unaffected.

>> > > > ...

>> > > > There is no mind to control if you realise the Self. The mind

>> >vanishing,

>> > > > the

>> > > > Self shines forth. In the realised man the mind may be active

>> or

>> >inactive,

>> > > > the Self alone remains for him. For the mind, the body and the

>> >world are

>> > > > not

>> > > > separate from the Self. They rise from and sink into the Self.

>> >They do not

>> > > > remain apart from the Self. Can they be different from the

>> Self?

>> >Only be

>> > > > aware of the Self. Why worry about these shadows? How do they

>> >affect the

>> > > > Self?

>> > > >

>> > > > (Talks; 97)

>> >

>>

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>>

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>>

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December 16, 2004

Dear Christiane

thank you for your loving reply - how can i be offended when feeling your intentions?

i have to digest your comment

maybe its time to throw away all this concepts and just let me fall in the Grace of the One and Only

i feel t h i s would be the right time to do it

after struggling hard to get to know the real michael

whats the use of doubting my own sincerety continiously?????

so thank you for this hint

thats Grace too

another comment

i do not only praise Ramana "loudly" much much more of importance is

the continuing thankfulness to have "met" "him"

in love and thankfulness

michael

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December 17, 2004

Dear Michael,

I am glad you took my comments in "the right spirit", after all, who am

I .....

you wrote:

> maybe its time to throw away all this concepts and just let me fall in

> the Grace of the One and Only

Again, I believe it is not about throwing away concepts and Grace is

always operating without you falling into it. What does that mean

anyway?

No, I believe its about reading Maharshi's words and following his

teachings. It is that simple! The process of self enquiry has been

explained by Bhagawan very clearly and there are excellent commentaries

by his immediate disciples available, which you have read no doubt. It

is just a matter of doing it. And that is maybe the most difficult

part. Doing it every day all the time any time one remembers to do it

until it goes on by itself. Everything else is just psychology and

mental gymnastics not leading anywhere.

With Love

Om Arunachala Shiva

Christiane

P.S. I am sometimes a bit shaken by the force of my own conviction.

Maharshi's teachings are the one thing that I feel really strongly

about. Because they work so well for me, in my love for others I feel

everybody should derive the same benefit from them as I have. And it

pains me to see again and again that there are so many

misunderstandings. Atma Vichara is really easy. If I can do it, you can

do it. Anyone with the inclination can. Om tat sat

On Dec 16, 2004, at 08:01, MICHAEL BINDEL wrote:

> Dear Christiane

> thank you for your loving reply - how can i be offended when feeling

> your intentions?

>

> i have to digest your comment

>

> maybe its time to throw away all this concepts and just let me fall in

> the Grace of the One and Only

>

> i feel t h i s would be the right time to do it

>

> after struggling hard to get to know the real michael

>

> whats the use of doubting my own sincerety continiously?????

>

> so thank you for this hint

>

> thats Grace too

>

> another comment

>

> i do not only praise Ramana "loudly" much much more of importance is

> the continuing thankfulness to have "met" "him"

>

> in love and thankfulness

>

> michael

>

> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download

> today it's FREE!

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>

> Sponsor

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