To study Brahman? Pseudo Realisation, etc.

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R.S.MANI wrote:

>IMHO

>

>I do not think (IMHO) any special or new experience will take place on

Realization, nor is it required. Even if any such new/special experience takes

place, that too must be floating on awareness only. Waiting for such an

experience takes one nowhere. We always experience Awareness, or Consciousness

or Brahman, which is one’s Real Nature, which never changes, in and through all

our experiences. Experience of Brahman is never absent, but we miss that

experience, due to ignorance of our own nature.

>

>

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Thank you Maniji for a wonderful and well thought out post. What you say

makes sense and it contains an important lesson.. The experience of

Realization is simply Recognizing That, which has always been Here. Here

is an example to support what you say about valid means to know the Self

that are needed. Let us say someone has been asleep for a long time and

ill. The person wakes up disoriented and says where am I, what is going

on. The wife (his guru) tells him to go take a shower and look at the

mirror. When the man looks in the mirror, he sees a stranger (beard

growing, long hair, all messed up) and becomes even more confused. His

wife tells him to shave and clean up and have breakfast so the mind can

function optimally. Further she tells him who he really is (her words

are like scriptures in this story). After following the instructions of

his guru the man looks in the mirror again and sees his shaved clean

face and recognizes it. From that point on when the man looks at the

mirror in the morning, he does not feel confused and does not need to

ask his wife, who is that, who is that in the mirror? He knows. It is

only Me.

 

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

, Harsha wrote:

> R.S.MANI wrote:

>

> >IMHO

> >

> >I do not think (IMHO) any special or new experience will take

place on Realization, nor is it required. Even if any such

new/special experience takes place, that too must be floating on

awareness only. Waiting for such an experience takes one nowhere. We

always experience Awareness, or Consciousness or Brahman, which is

one's Real Nature, which never changes, in and through all our

experiences. Experience of Brahman is never absent, but we miss that

experience, due to ignorance of our own nature.

> >

> >

> ************************************

> Thank you Maniji for a wonderful and well thought out post. What

you say

> makes sense and it contains an important lesson.. The experience of

> Realization is simply Recognizing That, which has always been Here.

Here

> is an example to support what you say about valid means to know the

Self

> that are needed. Let us say someone has been asleep for a long time

and

> ill. The person wakes up disoriented and says where am I, what is

going

> on. The wife (his guru) tells him to go take a shower and look at

the

> mirror. When the man looks in the mirror, he sees a stranger (beard

> growing, long hair, all messed up) and becomes even more confused.

His

> wife tells him to shave and clean up and have breakfast so the mind

can

> function optimally. Further she tells him who he really is (her

words

> are like scriptures in this story). After following the

instructions of

> his guru the man looks in the mirror again and sees his shaved

clean

> face and recognizes it. From that point on when the man looks at

the

> mirror in the morning, he does not feel confused and does not need

to

> ask his wife, who is that, who is that in the mirror? He knows. It

is

> only Me.

 

 

Enlightenment

Means

Not describing

Nor discussing

What enlightenment

Is.

It is so simple

It's a shame to admit

Even the lowest of the base

Know it.

Yet the most profound intellect

Can but glimpse

A mere reflection

Of its depths.

No amount of words

Can describe the taste

Of honey.

The enlightened ask not

They are

The answer.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

yosy