Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 , christiane cameron <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > Dear Tony, > > yes yes yes > > but even Ramana Maharshi loved Arunachala better than any other place > > > > > OAS > Chris Namaste Chris, One must distinguish between Ramana the body and its prarabda karma, which may appear human, and the Jivanmukta. This confusion is what causes further misunderstandings. People talk of being Ramana devotees etc etc. What are they devotees of? Ramana the body with its karma or The Universal Jivanmukta? Ramana doesn't exist anymore than Jesus or Krishna. What does exist, for arguments sake, is the Higher Consciousness, upon which we give names like Jesus Buddha or Ramana. Ultimately this is also unreal but that is another discussion altogether. So worshipping pictures and images of Ramana is just putting a face on our own Higher Self. It can be useful as a point of concentration as Ramana has said..........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Dear Tony, I cannot believe that you are lecturing me in this way. Either this is not meant for me at all or you never read anything I wrote. Again, we are aware of everything you say, but if we take all interaction to the last consequence of Nirguna, then we might as well stop posting here, as neither you nor I nor this Sangha exists. There was a Jnani called Ramana Maharshi, my beloved Guruji, and he loved Arunachala, that is all. Ramana is Arunachala and Arunachala is Shiva and Shiva is Self. Has the red mountain called you? Om Arunachala Shiva Chris On Jan 3, 2005, at 18:28, saktidasa wrote: > > , christiane cameron > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > Dear Tony, > > > > yes yes yes > > > > but even Ramana Maharshi loved Arunachala better than any other > place > > > > > > > > > > OAS > > Chris > > Namaste Chris, > > One must distinguish between Ramana the body and its prarabda karma, > which may appear human, and the Jivanmukta. This confusion is what > causes further misunderstandings. > > People talk of being Ramana devotees etc etc. What are they devotees > of? Ramana the body with its karma or The Universal Jivanmukta? > Ramana doesn't exist anymore than Jesus or Krishna. What does exist, > for arguments sake, is the Higher Consciousness, upon which we give > names like Jesus Buddha or Ramana. Ultimately this is also unreal but > that is another discussion altogether. > > So worshipping pictures and images of Ramana is just putting a face on > our own Higher Self. It can be useful as a point of concentration as > Ramana has said..........ONS...Tony. > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Links > > • > / > > • > > > • Terms of > Service. > > Monsoonhouse Int. Kovalam/Kerala contact: christianecameron Attachment: (text/enriched) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 No there is no mistake. This is our own dear Tony perfectly in his element :-). Tony, Tony, Tony. Tony, Tony, Tony. What can I say that has not already been said. Love, Harsha - "christiane cameron" <christianecameron <> Monday, January 03, 2005 7:18 PM Re: Re: new year Dear Tony, I cannot believe that you are lecturing me in this way. Either this is not meant for me at all or you never read anything I wrote. Again, we are aware of everything you say, but if we take all interaction to the last consequence of Nirguna, then we might as well stop posting here, as neither you nor I nor this Sangha exists. There was a Jnani called Ramana Maharshi, my beloved Guruji, and he loved Arunachala, that is all. Ramana is Arunachala and Arunachala is Shiva and Shiva is Self. Has the red mountain called you? Om Arunachala Shiva Chris On Jan 3, 2005, at 18:28, saktidasa wrote: > > , christiane cameron > <christianecameron@m...> wrote: > > Dear Tony, > > > > yes yes yes > > > > but even Ramana Maharshi loved Arunachala better than any other > place > > > > > > > > > > OAS > > Chris > > Namaste Chris, > > One must distinguish between Ramana the body and its prarabda karma, > which may appear human, and the Jivanmukta. This confusion is what > causes further misunderstandings. > > People talk of being Ramana devotees etc etc. What are they devotees > of? Ramana the body with its karma or The Universal Jivanmukta? > Ramana doesn't exist anymore than Jesus or Krishna. What does exist, > for arguments sake, is the Higher Consciousness, upon which we give > names like Jesus Buddha or Ramana. Ultimately this is also unreal but > that is another discussion altogether. > > So worshipping pictures and images of Ramana is just putting a face on > our own Higher Self. It can be useful as a point of concentration as > Ramana has said..........ONS...Tony. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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