Fwd: Ramana and Bhakti

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Friday, January 07, 2005 12:27 PM

Fwd: Re: Ramana and Bhakti

 

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> advaitajnana, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

> wrote:

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> advaitajnana, christiane cameron

> <christianecameron@m...> wrote:

>>

>> "At times Bhagvan's words and actions would make us wonder whether

> he

>> is a bhakta melting with love for Arunachala rather than a

>> dispassionate detached jnani. Namaste All,IMO,

>

> This is very beautiful but it points out the Prarabda karma that

> Ramana is going through, realised or unrealised.

>

>

> "Bhagavan took the

>> sacred ash from the plate, applied it to his forehead and remarked

>> softly: "The son is beholden to the Father". As he said this

> Bhagavan's

>> voice choked with emotion. His eyes glittered with unshed tears of

>> extacy. This incident seems to illustrate the saying, "absolute

>> Knowledge (Jnana) is no different from absolute Devotion (Bhakti)."

>

>

>

> This is again Ramana talking with Prarabda, separating himself in Son

> and Father. Speaking as the Son not the Absolute. (Of course absolute

> anything is absolute.) However it shows his 'human prarabda side' and

> bhakti teaching 'by example'.

> However this is not his full teaching--'Who am I?' is.

> This is a step on the way, for it is dualistic to a great extent,

> even

> his words Son and Father indicate

> dualism. He is showing an example, and going through his prarabda.

>

> Absolute Devotion is Moksha, with no Ego to enjoy bliss. I am not

> knocking Bhakti but if one follows only this teaching or step on the

> way then what happens to Ramana's ultimate teaching 'Who am I?'.

>

> As I understand it the 'little I' realises it is the 'big I' only. At

> this point Moksha and realisation of Nirguna occurr. At the end of

> Prarabda when the body drops, everything connected with the illusion

> of body, and very creation itself collapses, as never having happened

> in the first place.....Bhakti is all very well and good but that type

> of devotional path isn't what he teaches as such, only as a

> step...........ONS.........Tony.

> --- End forwarded message ---

 

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So there you have it. The ball game continues,

and the score is 0-0. Each to his/her own opinion,

each according to his/her own merits :-)

 

Love,

 

Joyce

 

 

Let my every word be a prayer to Thee,

Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee,

Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image,

Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee,

Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet;

Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I do,

Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee."

>From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's Saundaryalahari