Fw: [MillionPaths] The experience of Self is only love

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Love is Realization; Realization is Love

 

Thank you everyone for these most inspiring words of

Bhagavan! Native Americans call these two directions

the two wings of the same bird of spirit! I always

remember Bhagavan's words in this way: "Tat tvam asi!"

"Thou art (all) That!" The Supreme Unity has

different "tastes" or "takes" accordingly--some like

"pure vanilla", others the more exotic flavors! And

some of us like vanilla at one time, and the exotic

flavors at another.

Bhagavad could take a devotee coming from any

direction and redirect him/her back to the nondual

inherent in that very direction.

 

Sri Ramakrishna says the most important thing is that

we "taste and see"! That we find out the richness of

our own Pure Being; that we return the mind to its

source--the undivided One (which alone gives true

Peace)--every time and in every way possible. We find

then that indeed, Nondual love is Realization;

Realization is Nondual love!

 

With you in Bhagavan,

Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada

(rainbowbird)

tsisquaunvgoladv

 

Eastern Cherokee

 

 

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> >

> > This dialogue is one of my favorite dialogues

> > with Sri Ramana Maharshi.

>

> Ah yes, mine too, who wouldn't melt in it?

> Thanks for forwarding it Joyce.

>

> Wim

>

>

> >

> > Love itself is the actual form of God

> >

> > Q: Swami, it is good to love God, is it not?

> >

> > Then why not follow the path of love?

> >

> >

> > Maharshi: "Who said you couldn't follow it?

> >

> > You can do so.

> >

> > But when you talk of love,

> >

> > there is duality,

> >

> > is there not?-

> >

> > the person who loves and the entity called God who

> is loved?

> >

> > The individual is not separate from God.

> >

> > Hence love means one has love towards one's own

> Self."

> >

> >

> > Q: That is why I am asking you

> >

> > whether God could be worshipped through the path

> of love.

> >

> >

> > Maharshi:"That is exactly what I have been saying.

>

> >

> > Love itself is the actual form of God.

> >

> > If by saying, `I do not love this, I do not love

> that',

> >

> > you reject all things,

> >

> > that which remains is the real form of the Self.

> >

> > That is pure bliss.

> >

> > Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you will.

> >

> > That is devotion, that is realization and that is

> everything.

> >

> > If you thus reject everything, what remains is the

> Self alone.

> >

> > That is real love.

> >

> > One who knows the secret of that love

> >

> > finds the world itself full of universal love.

> >

> > The experience of not forgetting consciousness,

> alone,

> >

> > is the state of devotion

> >

> > which is the relationship of unfading real love,

> >

> > because the real knowledge of Self,

> >

> > which shines as the undivided supreme bliss

> itself,

> >

> > surges up as the nature of love.

> >

> > Only if one knows the truth of love,

> >

> > which is the real nature of Self,

> >

> > will the strong entangled knot of life be untied.

> >

> > Only if one attains the height of love will

> liberation be attained.

> >

> > Such is the heart of all religions.

> >

> > The experience of Self is only love,

> >

> > which is seeing only love,

> >

> > hearing only love,

> >

> > feeling only love,

> >

> > tasting only love

> >

> > and smelling only love,

> >

> > which is bliss."

>

>

>

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> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

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> Sri Ramana

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> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

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[Guest guest]

>>

>> Love itself is the actual form of God

>

> Namaste,

>

> This is a nice piece but it is explained a little clearer by Ramana.

> He says that any relationship with God can only be an illusory one

> as there is nothing but God.

>

> True Bhakti or devotion is to remain as one really is, in the state

> of being in which all ideas about relationships with God have ceased

> to exist. p82 'Be as you are'.

>

> Bhakti is being without an ego, surrender is being without an ego,

> any other devotion based on duality is unreal. Many people mistake

> dual emotional attachment as Bhakti, this is a step on the way.

> For true Bhakti has no lover or beloved only the

> One.........ONS..Tony.

 

As you wish Tonyji. You have gone from questioning Bhakti

completely to qualifying its definition. This is a step on the way!!!

 

Love,

 

Joyce

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Dear Sister Judith:

 

So nice to have you here :-) Your reference to the two

wings of the same bird of spirit reminds me of Papaji's

story of meeting the Maharshi...you may already know it,

but in case you want to read it again...I have a few stories

here...

 

http://www.omshaantih.com/Ramana/Maharshiindex.htm

 

Click on the link for "A Bird Cannot Fly Without Two Wings.

 

Love,

 

Joyce

 

PS Thanks to Glo for posting the dialogue, one of her favorites :-)

 

 

> ________

>

> Love is Realization; Realization is Love

>

> Thank you everyone for these most inspiring words of

> Bhagavan! Native Americans call these two directions

> the two wings of the same bird of spirit! I always

> remember Bhagavan's words in this way: "Tat tvam asi!"

> "Thou art (all) That!" The Supreme Unity has

> different "tastes" or "takes" accordingly--some like

> "pure vanilla", others the more exotic flavors! And

> some of us like vanilla at one time, and the exotic

> flavors at another.

> Bhagavad could take a devotee coming from any

> direction and redirect him/her back to the nondual

> inherent in that very direction.

>

> Sri Ramakrishna says the most important thing is that

> we "taste and see"! That we find out the richness of

> our own Pure Being; that we return the mind to its

> source--the undivided One (which alone gives true

> Peace)--every time and in every way possible. We find

> then that indeed, Nondual love is Realization;

> Realization is Nondual love!

>

> With you in Bhagavan,

> Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada

> (rainbowbird)

> tsisquaunvgoladv

>

> Eastern Cherokee

>

>

> ________

>> >

>> > This dialogue is one of my favorite dialogues

>> > with Sri Ramana Maharshi.

>>

>> Ah yes, mine too, who wouldn't melt in it?

>> Thanks for forwarding it Joyce.

>>

>> Wim

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Love itself is the actual form of God

>> >

>> > Q: Swami, it is good to love God, is it not?

>> >

>> > Then why not follow the path of love?

>> >

>> >

>> > Maharshi: "Who said you couldn't follow it?

>> >

>> > You can do so.

>> >

>> > But when you talk of love,

>> >

>> > there is duality,

>> >

>> > is there not?-

>> >

>> > the person who loves and the entity called God who

>> is loved?

>> >

>> > The individual is not separate from God.

>> >

>> > Hence love means one has love towards one's own

>> Self."

>> >

>> >

>> > Q: That is why I am asking you

>> >

>> > whether God could be worshipped through the path

>> of love.

>> >

>> >

>> > Maharshi:"That is exactly what I have been saying.

>>

>> >

>> > Love itself is the actual form of God.

>> >

>> > If by saying, `I do not love this, I do not love

>> that',

>> >

>> > you reject all things,

>> >

>> > that which remains is the real form of the Self.

>> >

>> > That is pure bliss.

>> >

>> > Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you will.

>> >

>> > That is devotion, that is realization and that is

>> everything.

>> >

>> > If you thus reject everything, what remains is the

>> Self alone.

>> >

>> > That is real love.

>> >

>> > One who knows the secret of that love

>> >

>> > finds the world itself full of universal love.

>> >

>> > The experience of not forgetting consciousness,

>> alone,

>> >

>> > is the state of devotion

>> >

>> > which is the relationship of unfading real love,

>> >

>> > because the real knowledge of Self,

>> >

>> > which shines as the undivided supreme bliss

>> itself,

>> >

>> > surges up as the nature of love.

>> >

>> > Only if one knows the truth of love,

>> >

>> > which is the real nature of Self,

>> >

>> > will the strong entangled knot of life be untied.

>> >

>> > Only if one attains the height of love will

>> liberation be attained.

>> >

>> > Such is the heart of all religions.

>> >

>> > The experience of Self is only love,

>> >

>> > which is seeing only love,

>> >

>> > hearing only love,

>> >

>> > feeling only love,

>> >

>> > tasting only love

>> >

>> > and smelling only love,

>> >

>> > which is bliss."

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------ Sponsor

>> --------------------~-->

>> Has someone you know been affected by illness or

>> disease?

>> Network for Good is THE place to support health

>> awareness efforts!

>>

> http://us.click./rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/bpSolB/TM

>>

> --~->

>>

>>

>> /join

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>>

>> Sri Ramana

>>

>> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>> Links

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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