Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 --- Lady Joyce <shaantih wrote: > Dear Joyce, Osiyo! (Hello!) It is good to sit in this circle. I appreciate the awareness and deep responses of the sisters and brothers sitting here. I did follow the link you gave, to read the story of Papaji's meetings with Bhagavan; it is a beautful illustration of the two wings of jnana and bhakti. Bhagavan had such true compassion and empathy for all manifestations of spirit! Wado! (Thank you!) With love in Bhagavan, Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada (rainbowbird) tsisquaunvgoladv Eastern Cherokee > Dear Sister Judith: > > So nice to have you here :-) Your reference to the > two > wings of the same bird of spirit reminds me of > Papaji's > story of meeting the Maharshi...you may already know > it, > but in case you want to read it again...I have a few > stories > here... > > http://www.omshaantih.com/Ramana/Maharshiindex.htm > > Click on the link for "A Bird Cannot Fly Without Two > Wings. > > Love, > > Joyce > > PS Thanks to Glo for posting the dialogue, one of > her favorites :-) > > > > > ________ > > > > Love is Realization; Realization is Love > > > > Thank you everyone for these most inspiring words > of > > Bhagavan! Native Americans call these two > directions > > the two wings of the same bird of spirit! I always > > remember Bhagavan's words in this way: "Tat tvam > asi!" > > "Thou art (all) That!" The Supreme Unity has > > different "tastes" or "takes" accordingly--some > like > > "pure vanilla", others the more exotic flavors! > And > > some of us like vanilla at one time, and the > exotic > > flavors at another. > > Bhagavad could take a devotee coming from any > > direction and redirect him/her back to the nondual > > inherent in that very direction. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna says the most important thing is > that > > we "taste and see"! That we find out the richness > of > > our own Pure Being; that we return the mind to its > > source--the undivided One (which alone gives true > > Peace)--every time and in every way possible. We > find > > then that indeed, Nondual love is Realization; > > Realization is Nondual love! > > > > With you in Bhagavan, > > Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada > > (rainbowbird) > > tsisquaunvgoladv > > > > Eastern Cherokee > > > > > > ________ > >> > > >> > This dialogue is one of my favorite dialogues > >> > with Sri Ramana Maharshi. > >> > >> Ah yes, mine too, who wouldn't melt in it? > >> Thanks for forwarding it Joyce. > >> > >> Wim > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Love itself is the actual form of God > >> > > >> > Q: Swami, it is good to love God, is it not? > >> > > >> > Then why not follow the path of love? > >> > > >> > > >> > Maharshi: "Who said you couldn't follow it? > >> > > >> > You can do so. > >> > > >> > But when you talk of love, > >> > > >> > there is duality, > >> > > >> > is there not?- > >> > > >> > the person who loves and the entity called God > who > >> is loved? > >> > > >> > The individual is not separate from God. > >> > > >> > Hence love means one has love towards one's own > >> Self." > >> > > >> > > >> > Q: That is why I am asking you > >> > > >> > whether God could be worshipped through the > path > >> of love. > >> > > >> > > >> > Maharshi:"That is exactly what I have been > saying. > >> > >> > > >> > Love itself is the actual form of God. > >> > > >> > If by saying, `I do not love this, I do not > love > >> that', > >> > > >> > you reject all things, > >> > > >> > that which remains is the real form of the > Self. > >> > > >> > That is pure bliss. > >> > > >> > Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you > will. > >> > > >> > That is devotion, that is realization and that > is > >> everything. > >> > > >> > If you thus reject everything, what remains is > the > >> Self alone. > >> > > >> > That is real love. > >> > > >> > One who knows the secret of that love > >> > > >> > finds the world itself full of universal love. > >> > > >> > The experience of not forgetting consciousness, > >> alone, > >> > > >> > is the state of devotion > >> > > >> > which is the relationship of unfading real > love, > >> > > >> > because the real knowledge of Self, > >> > > >> > which shines as the undivided supreme bliss > >> itself, > >> > > >> > surges up as the nature of love. > >> > > >> > Only if one knows the truth of love, > >> > > >> > which is the real nature of Self, > >> > > >> > will the strong entangled knot of life be > untied. > >> > > >> > Only if one attains the height of love will > >> liberation be attained. > >> > > >> > Such is the heart of all religions. > >> > > >> > The experience of Self is only love, > >> > > >> > which is seeing only love, > >> > > >> > hearing only love, > >> > > >> > feeling only love, > >> > > >> > tasting only love > >> > > >> > and smelling only love, > >> > > >> > which is bliss." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------ Sponsor > >> --------------------~--> > >> Has someone you know been affected by illness or > >> disease? > >> Network for Good is THE place to support health > >> awareness efforts! > >> > === message truncated === Mail - You care about security. 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Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 > Dear Joyce, > Osiyo! (Hello!) It is good to sit in this circle. I > appreciate the awareness and deep responses of the > sisters and brothers sitting here. > > I did follow the link you gave, to read the story of > Papaji's meetings with Bhagavan; it is a beautful > illustration of the two wings of jnana and bhakti. > Bhagavan had such true compassion and empathy for > all > manifestations of spirit! > > Wado! (Thank you!) > > With love in Bhagavan, > Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada > (rainbowbird) > tsisquaunvgoladv > > Eastern Cherokee _________ > > Dear Sister Judith: > > > > So nice to have you here :-) Your reference to > the > > two > > wings of the same bird of spirit reminds me of > > Papaji's > > story of meeting the Maharshi...you may already > know > > it, > > but in case you want to read it again...I have a > few > > stories > > here... > > > > http://www.omshaantih.com/Ramana/Maharshiindex.htm > > > > Click on the link for "A Bird Cannot Fly Without > Two > > Wings. > > > > Love, > > > > Joyce > > > > PS Thanks to Glo for posting the dialogue, one of > > her favorites :-) > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > > Love is Realization; Realization is Love > > > > > > Thank you everyone for these most inspiring > words > > of > > > Bhagavan! Native Americans call these two > > directions > > > the two wings of the same bird of spirit! I > always > > > remember Bhagavan's words in this way: "Tat tvam > > asi!" > > > "Thou art (all) That!" The Supreme Unity has > > > different "tastes" or "takes" accordingly--some > > like > > > "pure vanilla", others the more exotic flavors! > > And > > > some of us like vanilla at one time, and the > > exotic > > > flavors at another. > > > Bhagavad could take a devotee coming from any > > > direction and redirect him/her back to the > nondual > > > inherent in that very direction. > > > > > > Sri Ramakrishna says the most important thing is > > that > > > we "taste and see"! That we find out the > richness > > of > > > our own Pure Being; that we return the mind to > its > > > source--the undivided One (which alone gives > true > > > Peace)--every time and in every way possible. We > > find > > > then that indeed, Nondual love is Realization; > > > Realization is Nondual love! > > > > > > With you in Bhagavan, > > > Sister Judith, Hermit of Sarada > > > (rainbowbird) > > > tsisquaunvgoladv > > > > > > Eastern Cherokee > > > > > > > > > ________ > > >> > > > >> > This dialogue is one of my favorite dialogues > > > >> > with Sri Ramana Maharshi. > > >> > > >> Ah yes, mine too, who wouldn't melt in it? > > >> Thanks for forwarding it Joyce. > > >> > > >> Wim > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Love itself is the actual form of God > > >> > > > >> > Q: Swami, it is good to love God, is it not? > > >> > > > >> > Then why not follow the path of love? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Maharshi: "Who said you couldn't follow it? > > >> > > > >> > You can do so. > > >> > > > >> > But when you talk of love, > > >> > > > >> > there is duality, > > >> > > > >> > is there not?- > > >> > > > >> > the person who loves and the entity called > God > > who > > >> is loved? > > >> > > > >> > The individual is not separate from God. > > >> > > > >> > Hence love means one has love towards one's > own > > >> Self." > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Q: That is why I am asking you > > >> > > > >> > whether God could be worshipped through the > > path > > >> of love. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Maharshi:"That is exactly what I have been > > saying. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Love itself is the actual form of God. > > >> > > > >> > If by saying, `I do not love this, I do not > > love > > >> that', > > >> > > > >> > you reject all things, > > >> > > > >> > that which remains is the real form of the > > Self. > > >> > > > >> > That is pure bliss. > > >> > > > >> > Call it pure bliss, God, Self, or what you > > will. > > >> > > > >> > That is devotion, that is realization and > that > > is > > >> everything. > > >> > > > >> > If you thus reject everything, what remains > is > > the > > >> Self alone. > > >> > > > >> > That is real love. > > >> > > > >> > One who knows the secret of that love > > >> > > > >> > finds the world itself full of universal > love. > > >> > > > >> > The experience of not forgetting > consciousness, > > >> alone, > > >> > > > >> > is the state of devotion > > >> > > > >> > which is the relationship of unfading real > > love, > > >> > > > >> > because the real knowledge of Self, > > >> > > > >> > which shines as the undivided supreme bliss > > >> itself, > > >> > > > >> > surges up as the nature of love. > > >> > > > >> > Only if one knows the truth of love, > > >> > > > >> > which is the real nature of Self, > > >> > > > >> > will the strong entangled knot of life be > > untied. > > >> > > > >> > Only if one attains the height of love will > > >> liberation be attained. > > >> > > > >> > Such is the heart of all religions. > > >> > > > >> > The experience of Self is only love, > > >> > > > >> > which is seeing only love, > > >> > > > >> > hearing only love, > > >> > > > >> > feeling only love, > > >> > > > >> > tasting only love > > >> > > > >> > and smelling only love, > > >> > > > >> > which is bliss." > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------ Sponsor > > >> --------------------~--> > > >> Has someone you know been affected by illness > or > > >> disease? > > >> Network for Good is THE place to support health > > >> awareness efforts! > > >> > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. 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