Fw: [MillionPaths] The experience of Self is

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, "Lady Joyce" <shaantih@c...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Love itself is the actual form of God

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > This is a nice piece but it is explained a little clearer by Ramana.

> > He says that any relationship with God can only be an illusory one

> > as there is nothing but God.

>

> As you wish Tonyji. You have gone from questioning Bhakti

> completely to qualifying its definition. This is a step on the way!!!

>

> Love,

>

> Joyce

 

Namaste,

 

I didn't question Bhakti, I questioned whether emotional attachment

and duality was Bhakti. To me Bhakti is having no ego, non duality.

Until that time there is only aspiring bhakti, that some do not wish

to let go of. I was just putting out what the ultimate teaching of any

Jnani seems to be. Here is something I just wrote;;;;-

 

Namaste,

 

As some know, I really believe in the ajativada theory.. 'Nothing ever

happened'.

 

However having said that and speaking in illusion.

 

The Mukta still has a mind but doesn't have an Ego as such. The

prarabda karma of the Mukta would cause the body/mind to behave in the

same way in that life, realised or not!!

 

Therefore there has to be a mind!! What the Mukta does have is a pure

Vijnanamayakosa which reflects the Truth. So the Mukta's actions are

those of a human. These can be taken as an example.

 

A Mukta's pure teaching is 'Silence', as Ramana, Maharaj and others

did. When Pilate asked Jesus, 'What is Truth',..Jesus was silent as

answer. The spoken teaching and advice is that of a realised human

body/mind not a 'God/Self'.

 

IMO The Self/God never takes an incarnation, the incarnation is a

human that has become 'God'. God is not involved in the creation only

karma and prana. Like a clock it runs itself, once the illusion is

wound up. Is it not said in the scriptures that any person can rise to

be an Avatar of Visnu? An Avatar is one step away from Moksha except

for the one thought to help. Once born though the Avatar has to pay

the taxes, and the prarabda. I believe many Avatars become Muktas in

that life--such as probably Buddha, Jesus, Sankara etc etc.

 

Bhaktis like to worship that is what they do, so they take a human

being and make it a God separate from themselves. When in actuality we

are all Avatars, we are all God, we are all Muktas. The only

difference being a purified vijananamayakosa..........ONS...Tony.