Ramana & Sleep

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On this subject I would like to share a portion of " TALKS " that I so happened to read today :

M : Were you aware of limitations in your sleep ?

D. : I cannot bring down the state of my sleep in the present state and speak for it.

M : You need not. These three states alternate before the unchanging

Self. You can remember your state of sleep. That is your real state.

There were no limitations then. After the rise of the ' I - thought '

the limitations arose. ( From Talk 266 )

(The following passage is from Talk 264)

M : Because you desire to learn, discussion is unavoidable. Leave all

this aside. Consider your sleep. Are you then aware of bondage or do

you seek means for release? Are you then aware of the body itself?

The sense of bondage is associated with the body. Otherwise there is

no bondage, no material to bind with and no one to be bound. These

appear , however , in your wakeful state. Consider to whom they

appear.

D.: To the mind.

M : Watch the mind. You must stand aloof from it. You are not the

mind. And the Self will remain ever.

Dora

, "barneyhazelwood" <dwk@i...>

wrote:> > I agree that "dreamless sleep" is the BEST temporary relief

for the > suffering caused by MY ego, but it's hard for me to

understand all > the references that Ramana has made to SLEEP and HOW

to achieve the > condition of which he speaks, which, of course, we

are already > supposed to be in, but do not realize it. Do ANY OF YOU

have any > further insights about these ideas that you can relay to

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