Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Dear One: Well put with generous compassion and insight. Sri Ramana has said that we can do nothing but surrender and even that is not fully up to us. Sometimes our suffering and misery helps us surrender. Love and blessings ============================================================ "Narayana" <bhujagendra 2005/02/02 Wed PM 10:52:13 CST Barney/Life is Suffering My suggestion, if your interested: * Stay with the not knowing. Dont try to repeat the process of replacing the state of not knowing the answers with someone elses comforting answers or beliefs about reality. * Notice that believing that you are only physical and that awareness itself is only the product of brain chemistry arrived at through a process of physical evolution only brings a sense of tremendous emptiness and pain. This definetly indicates that it may not be true. If it were true, why would your heart rebel against it and torment you? Just notice this point and quietly examine it within yourself. *Consider that various people throughout history have attested that the real nature of the human being is pure, non-local existence- awareness. They all attest to knowing this nature directly as their own self, and that this nature can only be described as divine. The knowledge is accompanied by such qualities as bliss, joy, love, compassion etc. Some people have arrived at this state spontaeously without a pre-existing belief in it, others after a long period of time engaged in meditation or other such practices. They also attest that when there is a cessation of even the slightest identification with mind/body/world, there is at that time a permanent cessation of suffering. *Ramana in particular taught that you can confirm this for yourself by continously fixing your attention on the feeling "I exist" with the aim of finding out what it is. The two points in regard to this practice are 1) The pure I, which your own existence awareness exists free of any thoughts of "I am this or that or like so". Therefore as thoughts arise, ignore them and attend to the sense of "I exist" or "I" or the awareness to which these thoughts arise. 2) The practice must be one pointed. A mediocre effort will bring mediocre results. Do not give up until you have learned to be one pointed. *You cannot lay your doubts at rest about the nature of the self/awareness until you have known it directly. Therefore take the inensity of the depair and use it to fuel the endeavor to find out directly by one-pointedly attending to your own existence-awareness with the aim of finding out for yourself directly what it is. You dont have to believe that the result will be as they say. You only have to endeavor totaly to find out if it is, or it is not, as they say. *Quietly take some time to consider that the only alternative to this inquiry will be to continue as you are, spinning round and again with otherwise unanswerable doubts and questions and the torment this brings. N. Love, serve, and be helpful, but without getting disgusted, tired, pessimistic, and exhausted. Blessings dear souls, blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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