Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 " So long as egoity lasts prayatna ( effort ) is necessary " Yogi Ramiah : All actions take place owing to Sakti. How far does Sakti go ? Can she effect anything without one's own effort ? Sri Ramana Maharshi : The answer to the question depends on what the 'Purusha' is understood to be. Is he the ego or the Self ? Yogi Ramiah : Purusha is svarupa. Maharshi : But he cannot make any prayatna ( effort ). Y.R : Jiva is the one who makes the prayatna. Maharshi : So long as egoity lasts prayatna is necessary. When egoity ceases to be, actions become spontaneous. The ego acts in the presence of the Self. He cannot exist without the Self. The Self makes the universe what it is by His Sakti, and yet He does not Himself act. Sri Krishna says in the Bhagavat Gita, " I am not the doer and yet actions go on ". It is clear from the Mahabharata that very wnderful actions were effected by Him. Yet He says that He is not the doer. It is like the sun and the world actions. Y.R : He is without 'abhimana' (attachment) whereas the jiva is with 'abhimana'. Maharshi : Yes. Being attached, he acts and also reaps the fruits. If the fruits are according to his desire he is happy; otherwise he is miserable. Happiness and misery are due to his attachment. If actions were to take place without attachment there would be no expectation of fruit. ( From Talk # 467, Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi- published by Sri Ramanasramam) Dora India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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