Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 A Polish lady told Sri Bhagawan about how she had a vision of Siva. She wanted to know how to make such visions permanent and continuous. Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi.: You speak of a vision of Siva. Vision is always of an object. That implies the existance of a subject. The value of the vision is the same as that of the seer. ( That is to say, the nature of the vision is on the same plane as that of the seer.) Appearance implies disappearance also. Whatever appears must also disappear. A vision can never be eternal. But Siva is eternal. The 'pratyaksha' (vision) of Siva to the eye signifies the existance of the eyes to see; the 'buddhi' (intellect) lying behind the sight; the seer behind the 'buddhi' and the sight; and finally the Consciousness underlying the seer. This 'pratyaksha' (vision) is not as real as one imagines it to be, because it is not intimate and inherant; it is not first-hand. It is the result of several successive phases of Conciousness. Of these, Conciousness alone does not vary. It is eternal. It is Siva. It is the Self. The vision implies the seer. The seer cannot deny the existance of the Self. There is no moment when the Self as Consciouness does not exist; nor can the seer remain apart from Consciousness. This Conciousness is the eternal Being and the only Being. The seer cannot see himself. Does he deny his existance because he cannot see himself with the eyes as 'pratyaksha' (in vision)? No ! So, 'pratyaksha' does not mean seeing, but BE-ing. " To BE " is to realise - Hence I AM THAT I AM. I AM is Siva. Nothing else can be without Him. Everything has its being in Siva and because of Siva. Therefore enquire " Who am I ?" Sink deep within and abide as the Self. That is Siva as BE-ing. Do not expect to have visions of Him repeated. What is the difference between the objects you see and Siva? He is both the subject and the object. You cannot be without Siva. Siva is always realised here and now. If you think you have not realised Him it is wrong. This is the obstacle for realising Siva. Give up that thought also and realisation is there. ( From Talk # 450, Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi - Published by Sri Ramanasramam ) India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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