Isvara, Guru and the Self are synonymous.

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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya.

 

A Swami belonging to Sri Ramakrishna Mission had a very interesting

conversation with Sri Bhagawan - in the course of which Sri Bhagawan

observed :

 

M.: Avidya (ignorance) is the obstacle for knowing your true nature even at the present moment.

 

D.: How is one to get over Avidya ?

 

M.: ' Ya na vidyate sa avidya ' ( What is not, is avidya ). So it is

itself a myth. If it really be, how can it perish ? Its being is

false and so it disappears.

 

D.: Although I understand it intellectually, I cannot realise the Self.

 

M.: Why should this thought disturb your present state of realisation.

 

D.: The Self is One, but yet I do not find myself free from the present trouble.

 

M.: Who says this ? Is it the Self which is only one ? The question contradicts itself.

 

D.: Grace is necessary for realisation.

 

M.: Inasmuch as you, being a man, now understand that there is a

higher power guiding you, it is due to Grace. Grace is within you.

'Isvaro gururatmeti' ( Isvara, Guru and the Self are synonymous ).

 

D.: I pray for that Grace.

 

M.: Yes, yes.

 

( Talk # 496 , Talks With Sri Ramana Maharshi - published by Sri Ramanasramam. )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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